Toyota Yaris Forums - Ultimate Yaris Enthusiast Site
 

 


 
Go Back   Toyota Yaris Forums - Ultimate Yaris Enthusiast Site > Technical Forums > DIY / Maintenance / Service
  The Tire Rack

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-29-2017, 02:38 AM   #1
lh59
 
lh59's Avatar
 
Drives: 3 dr 1.3 2NZ
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Queensland, Australia
Posts: 27
Reverse gear delay in the morning

My son auto YRX has a delay of about 1-2s when I shift it to reverse gear in the morning. It is a 2007 model with 175000km on it. The transmission fluid level is at the correct level. Wondering if it is a normal thing for a car of this age.
lh59 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2017, 06:19 AM   #2
Freedomage
 
Freedomage's Avatar
 
Drives: YARIS 2010 1NR-FE MMT
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: TR Istanbul
Posts: 15
Have you changed gearbox fluid on 160k kms?
Have you changed clutch set before?
Freedomage is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-29-2017, 07:01 AM   #3
06YarisRS
 
Drives: 2006 Yaris RS
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: New Brunswick, Canada
Posts: 255
Both my 06 and 08 engage all gears instantaneously. I had delayed engagement and shudder in my 06 Dodge Grand Caravan at around 300 000km. Sometimes an ATF+4 fluid drain and fill/filter replacement would cure it for a while. The last time it happened, I ended up replacing the torque converter. The valve body itself tested fine.

I would start with a fluid drain and fill. It's super easy to do. If that fails, you could drop the pan, replace the filter and refill - also fairly easy to do. If that doesn't work, you could either live with it - which I couldn't do as I'm OCD about my cars' proper operation. Lastly, you could take it to a transmission shop and they might do something like a line pressure test/valve body test. Or, maybe you want to do the latter first. Over the years, I had a few pressure tests done at a local transmission shop and there was never a charge for the diagnostics which included pressure tests and a test drive with a TCM code reader hooked up.

As preventative maintenance, when I bought each of my Yari, I changed the ATF out twice using only Toyota WS fluid. On the 08, I also replaced the filter during a third fluid change and will do so with the 06 in the spring when it comes out of winter hibernation. Both of my Yaris's have around 175000 km on their odometers.
__________________

2006 Yaris 5 Door RS
2008 Yaris 5 Door Hatch
2011 Kia Sedona LX

Last edited by 06YarisRS; 11-29-2017 at 07:15 AM.
06YarisRS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-01-2017, 01:17 AM   #4
lh59
 
lh59's Avatar
 
Drives: 3 dr 1.3 2NZ
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Queensland, Australia
Posts: 27
Tr.jpg
Change the ATF last December using the Toyota WS ATF. Flush it twice with new ATF actually. The photo show the ATF dipstick level today with the engine warm up and running. The color of the ATF did not change much. My son bought the car last year and did not notice anything wrong with it. It is only when I drove his vehicle for the first time last week that I notice the reverse gear lag in the morning. Other than that, everything seems to be in very good condition. Might be just the age of the car.
lh59 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-01-2017, 01:30 AM   #5
Freedomage
 
Freedomage's Avatar
 
Drives: YARIS 2010 1NR-FE MMT
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: TR Istanbul
Posts: 15
I think it is normal for a semi automatic transmission.
Freedomage is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-01-2017, 06:50 AM   #6
06YarisRS
 
Drives: 2006 Yaris RS
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: New Brunswick, Canada
Posts: 255
Well, your fluid looks brand new. I didn't notice any difference between engagement of drive and reverse in my Yaris, but I will make a point of seeing if there is a delay. Maybe it is normal.
__________________

2006 Yaris 5 Door RS
2008 Yaris 5 Door Hatch
2011 Kia Sedona LX
06YarisRS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-01-2017, 09:22 AM   #7
tmontague
 
tmontague's Avatar
 
Drives: 08 Vios M/T, 05 4wd Vibe
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Hamilton Ont.
Posts: 1,806
I've driven a few older work vans that had this issue, seems like she plays a role due to wear and tear of a high mileage trans.

You could buy a used trans from a recycler and cross your fingers or just live with it
__________________
I like to drive a slow car fast...
tmontague is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-01-2017, 09:37 AM   #8
bronsin
 
bronsin's Avatar
 
Drives: 2009 Base Hatch 2 Dr Auto
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: nj
Posts: 3,797
You’ve done everything you can do by changing the oil and filter. Now you have to decide to either sell the car or fix it should the transmission fail. If the car is in otherwise good shape I would favor The latter course especially as the transmission may not feel at all.
__________________
Synthetic Oil: Its All In Your Head
bronsin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-01-2017, 04:46 PM   #9
kevinj93
 
kevinj93's Avatar
 
Drives: 2013 NCP130
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 142
I just looked up the service manual, The automatic transmission specifications state that it should take no more than 1.5 seconds to engage when shifting from neutral to reverse, so 1 second is probably nothing to worry about.

PS, your 2NZ uses a different automatic transmission to the 1NZ in the YRX.
__________________
Running on standard AU 14" steel wheels (14x5 rims, 175/70R14 tyres). Added reversing camera and touch screen radio, cruise control, 16" rear wiper blade, and dash cam. Still to do: better horn(s).
kevinj93 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2017, 07:16 AM   #10
lh59
 
lh59's Avatar
 
Drives: 3 dr 1.3 2NZ
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Queensland, Australia
Posts: 27
Good to know that 1.5s is considered normal. My 1.3 auto hatch seem to engage much faster though. The Yaris is a very reliable car. With my 1.3 hatch, the only thing I ever did is changing the engine oil once every year using any full synthetic oil that is on sale (also change ATF and coolant at 120k). Has already done 220k and it still purr like a cat. Hope my son YRX has the same reliability.
lh59 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
My Car Shakes Noticebly when I Put The Gear into Reverse When The Car Is on a Slope Meteorite2 DIY / Maintenance / Service 3 11-14-2014 06:56 AM
2nd, 4th & Reverse Gear Not Engaging mesci DIY / Maintenance / Service 0 01-29-2012 02:14 PM
Toyota C160 Reverse Gear Problem Parmas DIY / Maintenance / Service 2 12-01-2010 02:30 AM
Reverse gear crunch Frankd1 DIY / Maintenance / Service 5 04-13-2009 12:43 PM
Reverse gear? polly General Yaris / Vitz Discussion 26 03-05-2009 11:39 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:53 PM.




YarisWorld
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.