ultra-light 14" or 15" wheels for Yaris 3dr - Page 3 - Toyota Yaris Forums

bigsky2 · 11-03-2006, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 03Z33

We all know Rotas suck, they've always sucked and will continue to suck. Get over it. If you like them that's fine.

If you plan to track your car, stay away.

You need first decide what your priorities are:

Cheap
Strong
Light

You can't have all three.

If you want cheap and light get the Rota's (but be warned, they are not the strong)

If you want cheap and strong get something like the wheels you mention from the Tire Rack (but be warned they are HEAVY)

If you want strong and light get something like the Volks or Watanabes (a little pricier, but well worth it IMHO)!

Yes, Rotas are quite cheap. But we are talking about the Konig Helium

No doubt, the Helium is also a cheap wheel.

What really irritates me is how some people use "cheap" wheels like Rotas, Konig Heliums, etc, for high stress purposes like auto-x and then complain that they fail. Come on people, are you going to enter a construction site wearing a bicycle helmet?

These wheels weren't meant for auto-x'ing, depsite the RACING label on the rim. They just aren't designed for that purpose.

My gut feeling is that some people bought Rotas, cheaper Konigs, ran them at auto-x, fucked them up, and then presented their sob story on a forum.

Again, I see no reason how these wheels (Konig Helium) would crack or fail under normal driving conditions.

03Z33 · 11-03-2006, 10:54 PM

Haha, it must have been a slip... I automatically think Rota, Konig, etc.. as all the same

I have to disagree about the track driving though... most racetracks are well maintained and smooth, the only times you usually see damage is when people go off track or are using mega sticky race tires with very stiff cars/suspension.

Most times I see damaged wheels is on roads where people hit pot-holes, curbs, uneven roads, drain ditches, etc... To me that is a lot more abuse and that is where you really need to make sure you have the strongest wheel possible. In fact, many "race" wheels are rated for "track use only" and are not DOT approved and aren't recommended to be used for street for that very reason.

One thing to consider is that the wheel the Konig Helium or Rota copy was originally designed as a Forged wheel. This is the only reason they could get away with making such thin spokes and still keeping the necessary strength. When this wheel is copied using a lesser design, such as casting with lesser materials, that is when it becomes unsafe. Don't get me wrong, chances are most people will never have a problem with the wheel, and even I'm tempted by the low cost and good looks. But you need to be aware that there is some risk when compromising on this type of product.

eTiMaGo · 11-04-2006, 12:35 AM

http://www.rayswheels.co.jp/emenu/da...ROTTY/logo.jpg

End of story. If you manage to break this wheel........ lol

03Z33 · 11-04-2006, 08:00 AM

I used to have these on my VW

They're actually not so heavy

eTiMaGo · 11-04-2006, 10:54 PM

yeah gotta love that funky retro styling

Russelt3hPirate · 11-10-2006, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OK Yaris

"attached image"

is the smily covering up a crack? :lol:

OK Yaris · 11-11-2006, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Russelt3hPirate

is the smily covering up a crack? :lol:

Nope. It's covering up the duct tape I used to fix the crack.

YarisPR · 11-11-2006, 08:22 PM

Get some 16 steelies and have fun

they are bigger maybe the are wider and not that heavy

and wount cost u a lot

grimez · 11-12-2006, 12:41 PM

I really like the looks of these.

They say they are lightweight at 18.5lbs... for 15 inchers, isn't that a lil heavy to be considered lightweight?

the_saint · 11-12-2006, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grimez

I really like the looks of these.
They say they are lightweight at 18.5lbs... for 15 inchers, isn't that a lil heavy to be considered lightweight?

The number you are trying to reach is no longer in service. Pease hang up and try your call again.

But to answer your question, yeah 18.5# is kinda heavy for a 15"

grimez · 11-12-2006, 03:55 PM

Oh, I was looking at the OZ Superleggra's FYI.

the_saint · 11-12-2006, 04:08 PM

Do you mean superturimso?

They are sharp looking.

grimez · 11-12-2006, 07:31 PM

Ya, those are the ones... pretty sure I'm going to get those. They are a lil' heavy, but the price is right for the quality.

03Z33 · 11-13-2006, 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_saint

But to answer your question, yeah 18.5# is kinda heavy for a 15"

Kinda heavy?

Those are heavier then my 18x10" wheels for my other car! That's also heavier then the stock steel wheels. You can find much lighter wheels for this budget without having to worry about cheap quality..

ChinoCharles · 11-13-2006, 10:46 AM

So, c'mon 03Z33, divulge!

03Z33 · 11-14-2006, 02:07 AM

A great site to search most common wheel weights is www.wheelweights.net

Here are some common choices:

5Zigen FNO1R-C $80-$160 each depending on size and color
15x7 +33 and 15x7 +42 both 14lbs
16x7 +33 and 16x7 +42 both 15lbs
17x7 +42 16lbs

5Zigen GN+ $100-$140 each depending on size and color
15x7 +42 15lbs
16x7 +42 16lbs
17x7.5 +42 17.5lbs
18x7.5 +43 19lbs

Buddy Club P1 Racing $135 each
15x6.5 13lbs

AME-Wheels Tracer TSSC $225 each
15x7 10.8lbs

Enkei RP-F1 $190 each
15x7 +35 9.8lbs
15x7 +41 9.5lbs

Falken Hanabi $89 each
15x7 +42 11lbs

Enkei Rs5 $100 each
15x7 +40 15lbs

there's plenty more, these are just the first ones that came to mind. You can search all day, some of the easier sites to search are:

www.tirerack.com
www.tires.com
www.edgeracing.com
www.vilventire.com

and of course don't forget our forum sponsors when it comes time to buy

11-04-2006, 12:35 AM	#39
eTiMaGo vroom vroom View User's Garage Drives: lil red 5-door Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bangkok, Thailand Posts: 7,744	http://www.rayswheels.co.jp/emenu/da...ROTTY/logo.jpg End of story. If you manage to break this wheel........ lol __________________ The price of freedom of religion, or of speech, or of the press, is that we must put up with a good deal of rubbish. - Robert Jackson Bye bye 1NZ...

11-04-2006, 10:54 PM	#41
eTiMaGo vroom vroom View User's Garage Drives: lil red 5-door Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bangkok, Thailand Posts: 7,744	yeah gotta love that funky retro styling __________________ The price of freedom of religion, or of speech, or of the press, is that we must put up with a good deal of rubbish. - Robert Jackson Bye bye 1NZ...

11-11-2006, 08:22 PM	#44
YarisPR Drives: Yaris Sedan Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: MayaWest, Puerto Rico Posts: 1,574	Get some 16 steelies and have fun they are bigger maybe the are wider and not that heavy and wount cost u a lot __________________ I Drive a 129whp Yaris ;)

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11-03-2006, 10:54 PM	#38
03Z33 View User's Garage Drives: TCR10 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: SoCal Posts: 1,132	Haha, it must have been a slip... I automatically think Rota, Konig, etc.. as all the same I have to disagree about the track driving though... most racetracks are well maintained and smooth, the only times you usually see damage is when people go off track or are using mega sticky race tires with very stiff cars/suspension. Most times I see damaged wheels is on roads where people hit pot-holes, curbs, uneven roads, drain ditches, etc... To me that is a lot more abuse and that is where you really need to make sure you have the strongest wheel possible. In fact, many "race" wheels are rated for "track use only" and are not DOT approved and aren't recommended to be used for street for that very reason. One thing to consider is that the wheel the Konig Helium or Rota copy was originally designed as a Forged wheel. This is the only reason they could get away with making such thin spokes and still keeping the necessary strength. When this wheel is copied using a lesser design, such as casting with lesser materials, that is when it becomes unsafe. Don't get me wrong, chances are most people will never have a problem with the wheel, and even I'm tempted by the low cost and good looks. But you need to be aware that there is some risk when compromising on this type of product.

11-04-2006, 08:00 AM	#40
03Z33 View User's Garage Drives: TCR10 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: SoCal Posts: 1,132	I used to have these on my VW They're actually not so heavy

11-12-2006, 12:41 PM	#45
grimez Drives: 2007 Yaris Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ames, Iowa Posts: 118	I really like the looks of these. They say they are lightweight at 18.5lbs... for 15 inchers, isn't that a lil heavy to be considered lightweight?

11-12-2006, 03:55 PM	#47
grimez Drives: 2007 Yaris Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ames, Iowa Posts: 118	Oh, I was looking at the OZ Superleggra's FYI.

11-12-2006, 04:08 PM	#48
the_saint 50% borikén Drives: 06 Mazda5, 90 240sx Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Omaha, somewhere in middle america Posts: 166	Do you mean superturimso? They are sharp looking.

11-12-2006, 07:31 PM	#49
grimez Drives: 2007 Yaris Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ames, Iowa Posts: 118	Ya, those are the ones... pretty sure I'm going to get those. They are a lil' heavy, but the price is right for the quality.

11-13-2006, 10:46 AM	#51
ChinoCharles Banned Drives: LB Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: OH Posts: 7,787	So, c'mon 03Z33, divulge!

11-14-2006, 02:07 AM	#52
03Z33 View User's Garage Drives: TCR10 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: SoCal Posts: 1,132	A great site to search most common wheel weights is www.wheelweights.net Here are some common choices: 5Zigen FNO1R-C $80-$160 each depending on size and color 15x7 +33 and 15x7 +42 both 14lbs 16x7 +33 and 16x7 +42 both 15lbs 17x7 +42 16lbs 5Zigen GN+ $100-$140 each depending on size and color 15x7 +42 15lbs 16x7 +42 16lbs 17x7.5 +42 17.5lbs 18x7.5 +43 19lbs Buddy Club P1 Racing $135 each 15x6.5 13lbs AME-Wheels Tracer TSSC $225 each 15x7 10.8lbs Enkei RP-F1 $190 each 15x7 +35 9.8lbs 15x7 +41 9.5lbs Falken Hanabi $89 each 15x7 +42 11lbs Enkei Rs5 $100 each 15x7 +40 15lbs there's plenty more, these are just the first ones that came to mind. You can search all day, some of the easier sites to search are: www.tirerack.com www.tires.com www.edgeracing.com www.vilventire.com and of course don't forget our forum sponsors when it comes time to buy