What are your favorite non-Yaris alternatives, and why?

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by BLKHILLSGUY

The HRV is basically a Fit. Be careful with that CVT, some Honda Fit owners are flooding the forums with issues from the CVT. They do offer a manual if you were interested.

Thanks for the info re that CVT . Drats . I already knew a manual is available, but unfortunately that manual isn't available on the AWD version .

[BLKHILLSGUY]

Originally Posted by nookandcrannycar

Thanks for the info re that CVT . Drats . I already knew a manual is available, but unfortunately that manual isn't available on the AWD version .

That blows. If I got the HRV I'd definitely want AWD, and I'm not willing to chance their questionable CVT. I guess it makes sense, only 10 percent of cars manufacturerd for the US are manual.

[428CobraJet]

Save the manuals!

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[Kalispel]

The sad future of the Yaris:

https://www.yahoo.com/autos/2016-sci...mments-postbox

[428CobraJet]

Not sad. A great way to get an awesome platform. And Mazda needs this. ZoomZoom.

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[Kalispel]

Less long-term reliability, and arguably the ugliest front design ever to grace an automobile. Perhaps Toyota will solve the ugly part by the time it becomes the Yaris in the USA.

[428CobraJet]

Some Toyotas aren't as stellar as others, no? I admit the Yaris is dependable, but its time.

This is working for the FR-S?

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[bronsin]

Just goes to show you the taste of the buying public. That front end is HIDEOUS but hey....thats what sells. You gotta be different. You gotta have pizzaz.

Yeah right.

No thanks for me I would buy the exact same ECHO as my 2001....or the exact same Yaris as my 2009 every ten or fifteen years.

Unless they came out with something REALLY different like a one liter engine or a car that weighed 1500 pounds.

But not at the expense of reliability!

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by 428CobraJet

Not sad. A great way to get an awesome platform. And Mazda needs this. ZoomZoom.

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I agree....and even if the new 2 version made it to our shores, I'd still give the nod for after the sale dealership needs to the Scion iA.

[2009Toyotoad]

Of all the cars I have traded away. I would like an 05' to end of model line Mercury Grand Marquis. Best V-8 highway cruiser I ever owned. Possibly my bone stock 1971 Ford F100 with radio. First rebuild ever. None of the newer stuff inspires me to one degree more than the other and I'm rather satisfied with the rest of our fleet.

[Kalispel]

Originally Posted by Kalispel

Less long-term reliability, and arguably the ugliest front design ever to grace an automobile. Perhaps Toyota will solve the ugly part by the time it becomes the Yaris in the USA.

In all fairness, once I Photoshopped a European-styled license plate onto the front end of the silver Scion iA pictured in that article, it did look a bit better.

[attrapereves]

Originally Posted by Kalispel

Less long-term reliability, and arguably the ugliest front design ever to grace an automobile. Perhaps Toyota will solve the ugly part by the time it becomes the Yaris in the USA.

Mazda has a habit of making the front end look as ridiculous as possible. I originally liked the styling of the new Mazda 3, but don't like how large the front is compared to the rear.

[Kalispel]

Originally Posted by attrapereves

Mazda has a habit of making the front end look as ridiculous as possible. I originally liked the styling of the new Mazda 3, but don't like how large the front is compared to the rear.

100% Agree. The 2016 Mazda2 has the same proportions problem.

[Idahotom]

Originally Posted by BLKHILLSGUY

I've seriously been considering the Subie Crosstek UNTIL just a few days ago when Consumer Reports listed 3 of the Subaru engines as using major amounts of oil. If I'm not mistaken, the owners manual says something like a quart for every 1,100 miles or so. I hadn't realized that, but Consumer Reports is usually spot on about crap like this. Not a fan of their car reviews, but the reliability statistics are the real deal. So the Crosstrek is off my list.

FWIW: some engine designs use oil, by design, something about low friction rings and a tradeoff between using a bit of oil and better fuel economy because of the lower friction. Weird I know but true.

[Thirty-Nine]

If my Yaris blew up tomorrow, these are what I'd consider, in no particular order, all with manual transmissions:

Used Fiat 500 Abarth
Used Mazda2 Touring
Used Scion xD
Used Nissan Cube S
Used Suzuki Vitara/Chevrolet Tracker (2.0 L)
Used 2010+ Yaris five door
Used Chevy Sonic 1.4t (possibly; would have to have low miles)

New Chevy Spark 2LT
New Mitsubishi Mirage (I'd at go drive a manual, but it's unlikely)
New Yaris SE if I could figure out how to get a 5MT

Possibly, just possibly, a Scion iQ despite its CVT.

[Kalispel]

If my 2015 m/t Yaris SE was totaled tomorrow, and I survived it , my top choices for a new vehicle:

#1 - 2016 Yaris SE - preferably m/t, white, silver, gray, or blue
#2 - 2010-2012 Yaris Sedan - a/t, if I could find a low-mileage, good condition one, silver or white
#3 - Used (2012-2015) Acura ILX - m/t only

[attrapereves]

Originally Posted by Kalispel

If my 2015 m/t Yaris SE was totaled tomorrow, and I survived it , my top choices for a new vehicle:

#1 - 2016 Yaris SE - preferably m/t, white, silver, gray, or blue
#2 - 2010-2012 Yaris Sedan - a/t, if I could find a low-mileage, good condition one, silver or white
#3 - 2016 Civic LX/EX - m/t only, latest pics look pretty good to me - though the ugly alloys would have to go.
#4 - Used (preferably) or New Acura ILX - m/t only

The choice in transmission for the 2010-2012 Yaris, is it because of the horrible clutch and throttle?

[BLKHILLSGUY]

Originally Posted by Kalispel

100% Agree. The 2016 Mazda2 has the same proportions problem.

The Mazda 2 is not very attractive in my humble opinion. It has a super long snout that seems out of proportion. The interior is pretty nice though. And I do trust Mazda. Not as much as Toyota however. My 91 Ford Festiva was a Mazda 121(Japan) and assembled in S Korea by Kia. Hell Kia was even selling the Mazda made car under a Kia name. Those Festiva's were tough little shits. Many on the road have 300k miles on them. Hell you still see them on the road today. A lot tougher than the Metro's of the day.