steering wheel slight vibration high speed??? - Toyota Yaris Forums

marcus · 08-08-2009, 03:03 PM

got new rims and tires it was balanced but it seems like i have a slight vibration on speed over 100km/hr nothing to serious but i couldve sworn i dont have that on my stock 185/60/15 tires setup..could it be due to i went to 205/50/16 wider track. anyone thanks!!!!!!!!!

still getting the shimmy on 60-65mph ..slight vibration on the steering wheel..could it be due to me going to 16x7 and wider tires as well..vs stock.. can our yaris get a 4 wheel allignment..i know some cannot be done on the rear..

supmet · 08-08-2009, 03:22 PM

My guess is alignment, and that it was off before you put new rims/tires, you just didn't notice with the skinnier tire. Check the torque on all your lugs just in case though.

Bob Dog · 08-08-2009, 03:30 PM

alignment is a good bet, bigger wheels will make any short coming in alignment more pronounced. you also might have lost a wheel weight if it was not put on well enough. new alloy wheels can sometimes loosen up so as supmet said. its a good idea to check your lug nuts.

marcus · 08-08-2009, 05:08 PM

kewl i i may be time for an alignment anyways..

RedRide · 08-08-2009, 05:48 PM

It cold also be a tire that is out of round.
That happend to me once.

silver_echo · 08-08-2009, 05:48 PM

any idea what machine they balanced it with? there is a possibility that the wheel/tire combination may not be perfectly static/dynamic balanced...

basically what i am asking is if the balancing machine that they used has a road force measurement... if they have one there, and did not use it to start with, ask them to check it with that, i have seen it happen that after using a proper road force balance, that it solved issues that only appeared with adding the new tires

silver_echo · 08-08-2009, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedRide

It cold also be a tire that is out of round.
That happend to me once.

+1 agreement, this fits with my statement as well

marcus · 08-08-2009, 06:26 PM

out of round...it is a new tire.. sumo firenza..but i guess they wont tell me if its out of round since i bought the tires from them..hmmm

silver_echo · 08-08-2009, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by marcus

out of round...it is a new tire.. sumo firenza..but i guess they wont tell me if its out of round since i bought the tires from them..hmmm

out of round can happen very easily... but take the tires back to them, tell them your issue, and ask for a balance recheck...

MUSKOKA800 · 08-10-2009, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by marcus

out of round...it is a new tire.. sumo firenza..but i guess they wont tell me if its out of round since i bought the tires from them..hmmm

I've bought a Bridgestone which was out of round (warranty replaced) so wouldnt be surprised if a "sumo firenza" wasn't bad from day one. I'd have the balancing double checked first though.

marcus · 08-11-2009, 09:36 AM

i guess its ok now..just had it pushed to 130km and i didnt notice the vibration..could it be that the rear is wider and for some reason it looked angled than b4 compare to stock

MUSKOKA800 · 08-11-2009, 10:52 AM

a bad balance job will always be most noticable a certain speed ranges, 100-110 kph being one of those ranges were the slightest imbalance will come to light. I picked one up when I replaced my stock plastic valve caps with slightly heavier metal ones.

Loren · 08-11-2009, 11:04 AM

What Muskoka said.

Alignment problems don't cause vibration until they've been let go long enough to cause a wear problem. Bad alignment with new tires does not equate to vibration.

Bad tire or improper balancing. 60-65 mph is when you'll usually feel it the most, especially on a lightweight car. (the Miata community actually calls it the "65 mph shimmy", it's that common) Usually if you go faster or slower than that, you won't feel it.

detroiter · 08-11-2009, 11:58 AM

I might add in maybe that if they were brand new tires, did they get enough miles on them to pass the break in period? I'd imagine that might be a contributor.

KCALB SIRAY · 08-11-2009, 12:24 PM

Are your new wheels hub-centric?

marcus · 08-11-2009, 03:17 PM

here is the rim sdrag dr16 on 205/50/16 sumo firenza..

didnt know about the break in on tires..

marcus · 08-11-2009, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by echo_hrs

Did you use hubcentric rings to bring the wheel mounting surface to match the OEM toyota 54.1 bore?

Cheers

yas it came with the rims and also measured it myself 54.1 it is..

KCALB SIRAY · 08-11-2009, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCALB SIRAY

Are your new wheels hub-centric?

Quote:

Originally Posted by echo_hrs

Did you use hubcentric rings to bring the wheel mounting surface to match the OEM toyota 54.1 bore?

Cheers

Marcus!! ^

08-08-2009, 03:03 PM	#1
marcus toyota View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris RS Blazed Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: toronto, canada Posts: 3,637	steering wheel slight vibration high speed??? got new rims and tires it was balanced but it seems like i have a slight vibration on speed over 100km/hr nothing to serious but i couldve sworn i dont have that on my stock 185/60/15 tires setup..could it be due to i went to 205/50/16 wider track. anyone thanks!!!!!!!!! still getting the shimmy on 60-65mph ..slight vibration on the steering wheel..could it be due to me going to 16x7 and wider tires as well..vs stock.. can our yaris get a 4 wheel allignment..i know some cannot be done on the rear.. Last edited by marcus; 08-13-2009 at 12:23 PM.

08-08-2009, 03:30 PM	#3
Bob Dog DARK PHASE OF THE MOON Drives: 07 liftback Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: the Boondocks, NC Posts: 993	alignment is a good bet, bigger wheels will make any short coming in alignment more pronounced. you also might have lost a wheel weight if it was not put on well enough. new alloy wheels can sometimes loosen up so as supmet said. its a good idea to check your lug nuts. Last edited by Bob Dog; 08-08-2009 at 03:52 PM.

08-08-2009, 05:48 PM	#6
silver_echo ekodrvr View User's Garage Drives: 2002 white subaru impreza wrx Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 776	any idea what machine they balanced it with? there is a possibility that the wheel/tire combination may not be perfectly static/dynamic balanced... basically what i am asking is if the balancing machine that they used has a road force measurement... if they have one there, and did not use it to start with, ask them to check it with that, i have seen it happen that after using a proper road force balance, that it solved issues that only appeared with adding the new tires __________________ if you want to see my plans for this car, check out here... http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3154316 i like this smiley...

08-11-2009, 10:52 AM	#12
MUSKOKA800 Drives: '08 Yaris Sedan, Aero Package Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Burlington, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,720	a bad balance job will always be most noticable a certain speed ranges, 100-110 kph being one of those ranges were the slightest imbalance will come to light. I picked one up when I replaced my stock plastic valve caps with slightly heavier metal ones. __________________ TRD Upgrades: 18" Wheels wrapped in 215/35/18 PZero's, Sportivo Shocks/Struts, Lowering Springs, Swaybar, Axle-Back Exhaust, Oil Cap, Rad Cap, Signage. Aftermarket Goodies: Piggies SS, K&N Drop-In, Blitz S/C, DC Header, NST Pulley) Toyota Options/Accessories: Sport Pedal Covers, Sport Shift Knob, Ipod Interface, Summer Mats, Winter Mats, Cruise Control, Auto-Dim Mirror, Echo steelies with winter boots.

08-11-2009, 11:04 AM	#13
Loren What? Drives: 2007 Yaris LB Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Safety Harbor, FL Posts: 1,006	What Muskoka said. Alignment problems don't cause vibration until they've been let go long enough to cause a wear problem. Bad alignment with new tires does not equate to vibration. Bad tire or improper balancing. 60-65 mph is when you'll usually feel it the most, especially on a lightweight car. (the Miata community actually calls it the "65 mph shimmy", it's that common) Usually if you go faster or slower than that, you won't feel it. __________________ ----------------------- Loren@InvisibleSun.org -----------------------

08-08-2009, 03:22 PM	#2
supmet Banned View User's Garage Drives: 2007 4 Door Yaris Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Southern California Posts: 1,357	My guess is alignment, and that it was off before you put new rims/tires, you just didn't notice with the skinnier tire. Check the torque on all your lugs just in case though.

08-08-2009, 05:08 PM	#4
marcus toyota View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris RS Blazed Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: toronto, canada Posts: 3,637	kewl i i may be time for an alignment anyways..

08-08-2009, 05:48 PM	#5
RedRide Drives: '09 Yaris carmine red 2d HB Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Middletown, NY Posts: 1,501	It cold also be a tire that is out of round. That happend to me once.

08-08-2009, 06:26 PM	#8
marcus toyota View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris RS Blazed Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: toronto, canada Posts: 3,637	out of round...it is a new tire.. sumo firenza..but i guess they wont tell me if its out of round since i bought the tires from them..hmmm

08-11-2009, 09:36 AM	#11
marcus toyota View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris RS Blazed Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: toronto, canada Posts: 3,637	i guess its ok now..just had it pushed to 130km and i didnt notice the vibration..could it be that the rear is wider and for some reason it looked angled than b4 compare to stock

08-11-2009, 11:58 AM	#14
detroiter Drives: 2008 Polar White LB Auto Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Metro Detroit Posts: 1,238	I might add in maybe that if they were brand new tires, did they get enough miles on them to pass the break in period? I'd imagine that might be a contributor.

08-11-2009, 12:24 PM	#15
KCALB SIRAY それを吸ってください View User's Garage Drives: black sand lb Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Virginia Posts: 8,894	Are your new wheels hub-centric? __________________ http://lifesdailypimpslap.tumblr.com/#me My Build

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