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Old 06-11-2009, 10:59 PM   #91
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Since this thread has pretty much died I figured that on would I bring it back to life it and respond to the dismissive comments of Gene W.
1) Human caused planetary change is documented: Have you never seen a copper mine or a mountain with its top blown off to access coal or ever heard or seen pictures ofof the Pacific gere. Pretending these things do not exist is nothing but wishful rationization to allow those who can not deal with the fact that fossil fuel culturecauses harm to this planet to remain in their comfort zone. While there is global warming can still has room to be questioned by a reasonable person, the fact that ice caps that have been in exixtence for hundreds of thousands of are melting at the same time as our little industrial revolution is a quantifiable, and documented.
2. We are the monkey that pisses poison. We are the only species that creates inorganic waste that is toxic and does not degrade naturally.
3. In its most forgiving definition, pollution is the release of toxic substances which are destructive to lifeforms. To deny the existence of pollution is not just rationalization it is in fact denial to the point of is complete self delusion.
The fact that individuals, political parties, and corporate manipulate the perception of events does not mean that the events do not occur. Pretending that events that have documentation from mulitple sources that do not have no apparent motivation to manipulate their perception is not just scepticism. It is irrational self vindication.
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What about volcano eruptions? They cause more damage to the air than man.
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Old 06-12-2009, 07:14 AM   #92
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It's over a $1 a litre in Toronto now. That's basically $4 a gallon.
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Old 06-12-2009, 09:24 AM   #93
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Since this thread has pretty much died I figured that on would I bring it back to life it and respond to the dismissive comments of Gene W.
1) Human caused planetary change is documented: Have you never seen a copper mine or a mountain with its top blown off to access coal or ever heard or seen pictures ofof the Pacific gere. Pretending these things do not exist is nothing but wishful rationization to allow those who can not deal with the fact that fossil fuel culturecauses harm to this planet to remain in their comfort zone. While there is global warming can still has room to be questioned by a reasonable person, the fact that ice caps that have been in exixtence for hundreds of thousands of are melting at the same time as our little industrial revolution is a quantifiable, and documented.
2. We are the monkey that pisses poison. We are the only species that creates inorganic waste that is toxic and does not degrade naturally.
3. In its most forgiving definition, pollution is the release of toxic substances which are destructive to lifeforms. To deny the existence of pollution is not just rationalization it is in fact denial to the point of is complete self delusion.
The fact that individuals, political parties, and corporate manipulate the perception of events does not mean that the events do not occur. Pretending that events that have documentation from mulitple sources that do not have no apparent motivation to manipulate their perception is not just scepticism. It is irrational self vindication.
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i dont even know who you are arguing with. because some of us dont buy into unproven premise that humans have caused global warming (doesnt even mean they havent, just that there is no sound science to prove it) you seem to then jump erroneously to the conclusion that we deny there is a huge problem with humans polluting the earth. NO ONE HAS DENIED THAT!

you said "To deny the existence of pollution is not just rationalization it is in fact denial to the point of is complete self delusion"

again, i think you are arguing with an imaginary foe. unless i missed something in this thread, nobody has denied the exisitence of pollution, or that man has caused it, and NO, denying there is sound proof of human caused global warming is not denying that humans are polluting the hell out of our planet.

-no one has denied that humans cause pollution
-no one had denied that human recklessness causes certain planetary change (only that human induced global warming has in no way been proven with any sound science). there are all types of planetary destruction. global warming, even if humans did cause it, would be just one component of that.

-finally, and most importantly, i dont see anyone shutting their eyes and making denials that we need to get serious about cleaning up our planet. if they have, then shame on them for being blind, deaf, and stupid.

...and $2.89 regular in Michigan today.
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Old 06-12-2009, 02:11 PM   #94
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Daf62757: Giant meteorites ,and vocanos are both capable of causing more damage thanwe arebut neither one is a "species."

roxy1: I wasn't addressing you or any points you made. You may chose to argue with me , I did not choose to argue with you. As it specifically states at the start of my statement I was speaking to points by Gene W.. Suffice it say that I politely decline any further discussion with you.

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Old 06-12-2009, 03:00 PM   #95
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3.85 by me in ny for regular....
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Old 06-18-2009, 02:35 PM   #96
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i paid 3.0 (god damn) 9 for regular in San Pedro over the weekend.
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Old 06-22-2009, 03:33 PM   #97
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Old 06-22-2009, 03:40 PM   #98
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Old 06-22-2009, 04:04 PM   #99
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They are saying that inventories have gone up, which means that we should have peaked on gas prices by now. Sure hope so!

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Old 06-22-2009, 05:18 PM   #100
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Old 06-23-2009, 04:35 PM   #101
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They are saying that inventories have gone up, which means that we should have peaked on gas prices by now. Sure hope so!

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i think it will rise up to 3.30-3.50(highest)for regular before averaging out for the fall at 3 dollars.
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Old 06-25-2009, 01:59 PM   #102
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Two days ago gas went up $2.89 a gallon for regular in my area, but fell down to $2.79 today.
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Old 06-25-2009, 02:14 PM   #103
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3.85 by me in ny for regular....

Yikes...$3.85??????????????????????????

Low I've seen 2.69 to a high (high oct) of $3.07

Have not seen anything like your 3.85. That's scarey
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Old 06-26-2009, 03:45 PM   #104
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Yikes...$3.85??????????????????????????

Low I've seen 2.69 to a high (high oct) of $3.07

Have not seen anything like your 3.85. That's scarey
some places do charge recklessly - they probably also added credit card charge, and full service fee, etc. I have a Mobil that's charging 3.09, when other stations hundred meters away - are charging 2.89
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