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90tsi · 02-01-2010, 01:15 PM

i dont wanna jump in on this late but if i read and caught up correctly didnt you say you had the engine dynoed? i can see the 132 to there and not at the wheels with the few mods you do have. without the drive train loss you numbers are gonna be a little higher... but correct me if i misread

cali yaris · 02-01-2010, 01:41 PM

I think you are correct, he got 132.4 bhp (brake horsepower).

Even with a 15% drivetrain loss (super conservative), that's close to 113 whp. with bolt-ons AND tuning, this is certainly possible.

at a 10% loss, it's 119 whp, that is a more "interesting" result.

slothman86 · 02-01-2010, 02:00 PM

doing it right

ozmdd · 02-01-2010, 02:08 PM

I concur that 132 at the crank doesn't seem all that hard-to-achieve. I'm pushing 110-115 at the wheels with strictly bolt-on stuff (intake, pulley, exhaust, wheels)

At the same time, this all sounds very haphazard and unscientific. I'd love to believe it, but you don't back it up with any pics or dyno sheets. When/how did you hook-up your engine to a dyno? Are you sure this isn't an "estimated HP" thing?

Also, aren't you getting any CEL's from your modified intake/throttle body?

Seriously, post a pic of this intake bypass for us to check-out.

blacksandiegovitz · 02-01-2010, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozmdd

I concur that 132 at the crank doesn't seem all that hard-to-achieve. I'm pushing 110-115 at the wheels with strictly bolt-on stuff (intake, pulley, exhaust, wheels)

At the same time, this all sounds very haphazard and unscientific. I'd love to believe it, but you don't back it up with any pics or dyno sheets. When/how did you hook-up your engine to a dyno? Are you sure this isn't an "estimated HP" thing?

Also, aren't you getting any CEL's from your modified intake/throttle body?

Seriously, post a pic of this intake bypass for us to check-out.

+2 More info on this "aux intake " set-up , thnx

Master Shake · 02-01-2010, 07:11 PM

I am a disbeliever.

sujonol78 · 02-01-2010, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cali yaris

no, forged rods are the same exact specifications as stock ones, in terms of shape and function. I have forged rods with stock camshafts and stock crankshaft.

Changing the rods simply does not change the power output of the motor.

i understand, but my idea of replacing the con-rod is with "lighter" con-rod material, if it is lighter, i think it will affect the lower power band. that's why when i change to the lighter rod, i will also change the camshafts. what do you think?

sujonol78 · 02-01-2010, 09:02 PM

it seems that we have a misunderstanding about the dyno method. as i mentioned before, it was on engine. for the next step i will use on the wheel

changchewsoon · 02-02-2010, 04:17 AM

subscribed :)

rob323 · 02-02-2010, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sujonol78

i understand, but my idea of replacing the con-rod is with "lighter" con-rod material, if it is lighter, i think it will affect the lower power band. that's why when i change to the lighter rod, i will also change the camshafts. what do you think?

Reducing conrod weight will have only a very marginal effect on the reciprocating mass. In other words, I severely doubt if you could tell the difference while driving it.

cali yaris · 02-02-2010, 05:43 PM

+1

sujonol78 · 02-02-2010, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rob323

Reducing conrod weight will have only a very marginal effect on the reciprocating mass. In other words, I severely doubt if you could tell the difference while driving it.

thanks for the info, i will keep it in mind for the next step.

Jerkratt · 02-03-2010, 08:30 AM

ur drive by cable?

sujonol78 · 02-08-2010, 05:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerkratt

ur drive by cable?

if i understood you correctly, the answer would be 'yes',
i'm not using the electronic throttle control

ozmdd · 02-08-2010, 01:34 PM

How did you connect the dyno to the engine?

02-01-2010, 01:41 PM	#38
cali yaris ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Turbo Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canoga Park, CA Posts: 14,859	I think you are correct, he got 132.4 bhp (brake horsepower). Even with a 15% drivetrain loss (super conservative), that's close to 113 whp. with bolt-ons AND tuning, this is certainly possible. at a 10% loss, it's 119 whp, that is a more "interesting" result. __________________ Micro Image forums, online store and shop are now closed. It was a great eight year run, but it was time to focus on other things. I'm still selling parts on eBay under micro*image seller ID and customers can still make requests for anything specific.

02-01-2010, 02:00 PM	#39
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02-01-2010, 02:08 PM	#40
ozmdd Reluctantly Crouched... Drives: 2008 Yaris HB M/T Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: DFW, TX Posts: 867	I concur that 132 at the crank doesn't seem all that hard-to-achieve. I'm pushing 110-115 at the wheels with strictly bolt-on stuff (intake, pulley, exhaust, wheels) At the same time, this all sounds very haphazard and unscientific. I'd love to believe it, but you don't back it up with any pics or dyno sheets. When/how did you hook-up your engine to a dyno? Are you sure this isn't an "estimated HP" thing? Also, aren't you getting any CEL's from your modified intake/throttle body? Seriously, post a pic of this intake bypass for us to check-out. Last edited by ozmdd; 02-01-2010 at 02:20 PM.

02-02-2010, 04:17 AM	#45
changchewsoon View User's Garage Drives: Vios Turbo Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Malaysia Posts: 190	subscribed :) __________________ 454 whp, 1.7 bar boost, pump gas, water/meth. 501 whp, 2.2 bar boost, pump gas + avgas, no water/meth. www.viosturbo.com - World's first 500 WHP 1NZ-FE

02-02-2010, 05:43 PM	#47
cali yaris ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Turbo Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canoga Park, CA Posts: 14,859	+1 __________________ Micro Image forums, online store and shop are now closed. It was a great eight year run, but it was time to focus on other things. I'm still selling parts on eBay under micro*image seller ID and customers can still make requests for anything specific.

02-01-2010, 01:15 PM	#37
90tsi View User's Garage Drives: 09 yaris Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: missouri Posts: 555	i dont wanna jump in on this late but if i read and caught up correctly didnt you say you had the engine dynoed? i can see the 132 to there and not at the wheels with the few mods you do have. without the drive train loss you numbers are gonna be a little higher... but correct me if i misread

02-01-2010, 07:11 PM	#42
Master Shake Drives: 2010 Red Yaris manual Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: VA Posts: 6	I am a disbeliever.

02-01-2010, 09:02 PM	#44
sujonol78 Drives: 1nz-fe / MT Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Indonesia Posts: 26	it seems that we have a misunderstanding about the dyno method. as i mentioned before, it was on engine. for the next step i will use on the wheel

02-03-2010, 08:30 AM	#49
Jerkratt View User's Garage Drives: 08 Yaris Liftback S (RIP 07) Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Fair Lawn, NJ Posts: 1,378	ur drive by cable? __________________ "It hurts more when its wet"

02-08-2010, 01:34 PM	#51
ozmdd Reluctantly Crouched... Drives: 2008 Yaris HB M/T Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: DFW, TX Posts: 867	How did you connect the dyno to the engine?

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