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Old 10-05-2009, 06:48 PM   #19
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oh... cause i ask because, my yaris no longer hits the 118mph mark, i can bring it up to 105 or so... and i never knew the cause, ive tried new air filter and such. could that be a reason?
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Old 10-05-2009, 07:05 PM   #20
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Before we all go off on rants and raves why don't we wait for the OP to came back and say why they want 13's?
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Old 10-05-2009, 07:12 PM   #21
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oh... cause i ask because, my yaris no longer hits the 118mph mark, i can bring it up to 105 or so... and i never knew the cause, ive tried new air filter and such. could that be a reason?

If you made a wheel and/or tire change that resulted in a lower diameter then your actual speed will change accordingly. As a note, aspect ratio (i.e. 40,45,60, etc) is the ratio of the sidewall height to the tread width. So a 185/60-14 would measure as 185mm wide, 185 * 60% = 111mm sidewall height on a 14" wheel... 14" is about 356mm so overall diameter would be 356 + 111(2) = 578mm or about 22.8 inches. The rolling circumference would be 1816mm.

Change the aspect ratio on that tire to 55 and the diameter changes to 560mm. The circumference would be 1758mm. That's a reduction of 3.2% from the 60 series. Theoretically, since your speedo doesn't register the tire change, this scenario would result in the car going 3.2% slower at the limiter.

Also of note, that if not limited electronically, the change in gearing can actually let the car travel faster by placing the hp peak at a point where the frictional losses of air resistance can be overcome... i.e. the car will be able to rev out...

Actual results may vary.
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Old 10-05-2009, 07:13 PM   #22
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Before we all go off on rants and raves why don't we wait for the OP to came back and say why they want 13's?
huh? Oh yeah!
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Old 10-05-2009, 11:34 PM   #23
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some 13x9s with a 255/40/13 would be AWESOME!
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Old 10-09-2009, 06:37 AM   #24
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ok mate i just got a set of 13" stealys from a mate and they dont fit over the brakes ha ha bitch i though some people said that they fit ... well i can tell yoiu that stock 13" stealys don't fit
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Old 10-09-2009, 06:47 AM   #25
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ok mate i just got a set of 13" stealys from a mate and they dont fit over the brakes ha ha bitch i though some people said that they fit ... well i can tell yoiu that stock 13" stealys don't fit
not sure anyone said steelies would fit

but, as you found out, it depends on the width and offset of the wheel as it needs to fit over the caliper

i found out the hard way with some 14x5.5 daisies from a miata...
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Old 10-09-2009, 06:51 AM   #26
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woops your right ha ha yes off set is true well the ones i have dont fit ... shame i wanted to se the difference between the 13"14"15" & 16"
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Old 10-11-2009, 11:17 PM   #27
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At least there are some people who actually go out and try stuff instead of just talking about it all the time.
Good to hear you tried out the 13's but yes. unfortunately steelies won't fit. The Lenso VPD's barely fit over the caliper and with that you have to put the balance weights on the inside part of the rim our the far outside where it can be seen by all. (not as nice looking but works).

If you want to know wheel and tire combos, try them out. You'll get a better idea of how and why they work the way they do. Much better than alot of technical talk that really doesn't get you to the feeling of how a tire/wheel combination works.

The Lenso's are the lightest set of wheels I have. For track they work very well. I really like this combination of the R888's for the track.

BTW the R888's are a really good tire for Tarmac rallies. If it rains. I'd recommend the R1R and probably a better overall tire choice depending on the limit of tires you are allowed to bring to certain events.

For the tight small tracks I like the 13's, but for the bigger wider radius turns, I'll use the 15's. 16's and 17's are just too big and heavy to run 225 or 245's with a stock engine.

What you guys didn't mention was the braking. On the 13's the car's brakes are more effective and you can do alot more late braking in a turn with the stock caliper setup and 13's which means higher entry and exit speeds, shorter lap times.

And please. Corrolas are no match for the Yaris. Unless it's a JGTC Corrola. That's different.

This pic is with the 13x7.5 Lenso with Kumho v710 205/50/13

This one is with the Lenso VPD's with Toyo R888 GG compound 225/45/13.
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Old 10-11-2009, 11:23 PM   #28
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ha ha every one take note mojoyaris is a legend he can talk the talk and walk it to :) i so far have used the stock 14 no good 15" 16" 17" the best i found were the 15" luck the only once i own but then i thought hmmm it might be that i have become accustome to this size and changing wheel size can dramaticly change the handling ... ?? i a thinking about it to much ?? ha ha o an i only use my car on the road not the track ...
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Old 10-12-2009, 12:17 PM   #29
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Old 10-12-2009, 04:32 PM   #30
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After seeing your pic, mojoyaris, I think your car on 13's look awesome!
Kind of reminds me of Japanese cars 20+ years ago.
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Old 10-12-2009, 06:08 PM   #31
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Sweet! Looks like an RC car tearing it up...
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Old 10-13-2009, 01:36 AM   #33
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Mojo actually looks like an Aveo but smoother lines....
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Old 10-15-2009, 12:06 AM   #34
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I have set a 14" dia BBS wheels from a Miata on my Yaris and they look great. 6" wide and 12#. With a 195/65-14 Falken 912, it should be the same weight as the 15" steel wheel and Goodyear from the manufacturer. Plenty of clearance for the brakes and strut. Hubcentric, too. For tire size info and comparison, try this link.

http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

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Sweet. I always liked BBS wheels.
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