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07-17-2014, 02:13 PM | #37 | |
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Ring gear = 41221-17040 or 41221-12470 Pinion shaft = 33321-17020 or 33321-12211 That still leaves you with getting the right 1st gear set to match, so a whole gearbox may be easier to source. Out of curiosity, what's your 5th gear ratio? |
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07-17-2014, 02:46 PM | #38 | |
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3.545 1.904 1.474 1.208 .961 Why would I need to change 1st with that final drive change? Going to the xD FD did not require a gear change.
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07-17-2014, 04:24 PM | #39 |
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The XD output shaft and ring gear are different to the Yaris, they are larger you can"t drop a Yaris diff into XD tranny also one thing to look at is that the XD output shaft bearing is wider its the one that is next to the DIff so I don"t know if it cahnges the case or if it's just a different bearing.
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07-17-2014, 05:47 PM | #40 | |
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Hmm. Have you considered going back to the stock 5th gear set (.815), or is it less hassle to swap the entire gearbox between races?
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07-17-2014, 06:18 PM | #41 |
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How can I know the ratios? I would like to recheck the XD gears cuase when I searched the tranny some parts are shared with the corolla but some are unique I think the first gear of the XD is one of them. I have still not assembled the tranny yet so id you guys need any info or pics let me know it's opened and covered in WD40
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07-17-2014, 06:22 PM | #42 | |
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The jump from 4th to 5th is already to tall, the car does not like to pull 5th at all, so I need to keep the spacing but move the entire range up - this necessitates a FD change, or an 8500rpm rev limiter. What is the xD 2nd? I don't use 2nd at most tracks, and only use 1st around the pits, so I could very likely just use the xD 1/2 combo.
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07-17-2014, 06:51 PM | #43 | |
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My C56 and C59 have the same pinion bearing setup: the inner bearing race is held on the pinion shaft, so the bearing in the housing has a larger center opening with multiple smaller rollers. The Yaris/xB both use the shaft itself as the inner race and have a smaller center with fewer larger rollers. My camera battery is dead, otherwise I'd take pictures to show the difference. I'll see what I can do over the weekend for some pictures. |
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07-17-2014, 07:00 PM | #44 | |
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It looks like the FD swap is the way to go, so you just need to find a donor with the right ratio. From what I can tell so far--no measurements yet--the shafts all have similar (or the same) splines, so fitting the gears shouldn't be a problem. As for 2nd, all of the C5X gearboxes I've found have the same ratio (1.904), regardless of 1st or FD ratios. |
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07-17-2014, 08:07 PM | #45 | |
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The pinion shaft of the XD is the same of the C56 & C59 thats way it uses the larger diff and I was able to source the Helical. The Xd is more like a corolla tranny than a yaris tranny. I'm really bad at explaining things I'm the type that talks pointing at stuff with my finger, like that there and this over there.
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07-17-2014, 08:25 PM | #48 | |
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Count the teeth on both gears of a set, divide output by input. That gives you xxx:1 ratio. I had to count some of them a few times to get it right, and had to use a marker to indicate every 10th tooth to keep from losing count. |
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07-17-2014, 08:44 PM | #50 |
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I second that... Wish I never get spares that way the junker works fine!
Hey Jason@SportsCar if swap the engine you change the class right?
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I would love to build a Super Touring Lite Yaris with a 2ZZ. Someday.
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07-17-2014, 09:13 PM | #52 |
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Great stuff... I'm porting the 2ZR and checking out the Prius piston swap soon after I finish playing around with XD tranny the only part Ineed are the axels. I got a junker that will ship a used set to my Dad in texas for 139.99 so tomarrow going to make the order.
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07-18-2014, 06:15 AM | #54 |
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Yes, that's the right idea. I think you may need to count the Yaris again though, it should be 67:18 = 3.722. By "taller" do you mean the thickness of the gear, or taller/shorter gear ratio?
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