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Old 11-15-2016, 01:40 PM   #19
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Next "big" vehicle will be a Subie outback
I'm not hearing or seeing good things with Subie reliability. I would have thought you would be happier saying with a Toyota, like maybe the Rav4?

My 'big' family car is a 2006 Camry. It has over 250,000 km on it and runs flawlessly, not even using any oil. You could also easily fit three child seats in the back if you wanted.


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there are recent news about the new Nissan micra and Honda wr-v...
The Micra has been around many years in Europe, and this one in North America looks pretty much the same as the one in Europe. Reviews say that it's noisy at highway speed.


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Old 11-15-2016, 02:11 PM   #20
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If Nissan would bring the Micra to the U.S., it'd likely be my next car. However, the Yaris, nearly 10 years old now, just keeps going and going. Plus it's only got 86,000 on it.
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Old 11-15-2016, 02:19 PM   #21
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You don't have the Micra in the US? I've started seeing them around in Canada. Like I said, the reviews give it a poor rating for highway driving. I would never buy one. The Yaris is such a fun drive, and rock solid reliable too.

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Old 11-16-2016, 11:21 AM   #22
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If Nissan would bring the Micra to the U.S., it'd likely be my next car. However, the Yaris, nearly 10 years old now, just keeps going and going. Plus it's only got 86,000 on it.
They will need to offer something different than the 3 cylinder engines that Nissan anounced, probably the classic 1.6 from the Versa Note, because people complain about power.It seems like a nice car, made to change the model (like the thrid gen Yaris!) from the cute round design to something more aggresive with french touches from the Renault Clio.
It is planned to be assembled en Mexico like the next Kia Rio, that also is in process of a design change next year.
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Old 11-16-2016, 12:08 PM   #23
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They will need to offer something different than the 3 cylinder engines that Nissan anounced, probably the classic 1.6 from the Versa Note, because people complain about power.It seems like a nice car, made to change the model (like the thrid gen Yaris!) from the cute round design to something more aggresive with french touches from the Renault Clio.
It is planned to be assembled en Mexico like the next Kia Rio, that also is in process of a design change next year.
In Canada, the Micra gets the 1.6 from the Versa.
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Old 11-16-2016, 04:20 PM   #24
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The basic 2016 (Canadian) Nissan Micra comes standard with the 1.6L and 5-speed transmission, 60/40 split folding rear seats, no A/C, no power package, but some surprisingly nice interior features... all for only CDN $9988. Yikes, that's only about US $7400!

I drove a 2015 Micra when I was in Montreal a couple of months ago, and it was a really decent and rather peppy little car. Yes, it has had some bad press about noise levels at highway speeds, but so too has the Yaris.

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Old 11-16-2016, 05:19 PM   #25
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You know you want to move to Canada! 😀

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Old 11-16-2016, 05:30 PM   #26
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You know you want to move to Canada! ��

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I'm actually a Canadian citizen and still own my house in Montreal... where we've always loved small cars!
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My echo is loud on the highway, too

Micra is nice...same features as my stripper Yaris

@illusion, you CAN fit 3 rear facing seats in a gen1 vibe/matrix...just can't buy Costco graco seats. We ran sunshine kids britax seats (iirc). Theyre narrow and safer. And a longer-than-normal life. You don't need a van or SUV or pickup
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After last week about half of US wants to too.
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Old 11-16-2016, 10:30 PM   #29
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Chevy Sprint got upwards of 50 mpg back in the day. It was also a deathtrap, uncomfortable, and tinny. However, it does prove two things:

- People would buy "poverty spec" cars back then.
- With fewer safety/comfort/performance amenities, you could get better fuel economy.
There's still an enthusiast community around the old Suzuki Swift (The Sprint, and Geo Metro that followed, were rebadged Swifts). A guy I know has a small collection, one turbo 3-cylinder and two twincam 1.3L 4-cylinders.



These cars only weighed 1600 pounds, and man, they can haul. This guy drives around with this sticker in his back window, and this is in Arizona. He's got guts.



Yes, big trucks have the mass advantage in a crash, but we've come a long way from the tin cans of the previous century. Even Smart Cars take huge impacts amazingly well.

If I needed a lot of space, I'd wish for a wagon, but buy a minivan because no one sells wagons in this country. Contrary to apparently everyone, I feel less secure when sitting up high on the road. I like it down low.
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