SCCA Classing Worksheet - Toyota Yaris Forums

ozmdd · 10-12-2009, 11:15 PM

Since there are so many misconceptions about SCCA classing for Autocross, I thought I'd post this handy-dandy worksheet. Note that this doesn't include the upcoming STR class.

lilredrocket · 10-12-2009, 11:21 PM

I can't see it but it may just be my computer

ozmdd · 10-12-2009, 11:37 PM

do you have adobe reader?

lilredrocket · 10-13-2009, 01:23 AM

Yep

Tamago · 10-13-2009, 07:13 AM

i don't see it either.

ozmdd · 10-13-2009, 09:37 PM

OK. I'll try a different method. It shows up for me.

ozmdd · 10-13-2009, 09:41 PM

Just hit this link:

http://autocross.com/er/carmodandclassification.pdf

Tamago · 10-14-2009, 11:22 AM

mspaint to the rescue

justjesus · 11-05-2009, 05:30 PM

NICE WORKSHEET! except, that it makes me cry!

ahh geez. can't do much to the yaris to keep it in HS. My CRX looks to be a knife in a gun fight.
Oh dear. Time to boost.

Tamago · 11-05-2009, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justjesus

NICE WORKSHEET! except, that it makes me cry!

ahh geez. can't do much to the yaris to keep it in HS. My CRX looks to be a knife in a gun fight.
Oh dear. Time to boost.

that's the last thing you need to do, if you want to be quick and competitive at autocross.

kngrsll · 11-05-2009, 06:24 PM

yeah, agreed. if you want to be competitive and not spend alot of money in a Yaris locally, i would try ST 1st. you can do most bolt ons and stay legal and you dont need to buy slicks. it wont be competitive nationally, but locally, it could do alright.

if you really feel like spending money, you can bump up to FSP. then you need biiig slicks, an LSD at a minimum.

if you really hate a having any sort of bank account, you can try SM and do everything above with a turbo or supercharger, or both.

i like to pick a class that will keep my from spending alot of money (ie not slicks, not engine mods lol.) but to each their own.

Morgan · 11-05-2009, 06:33 PM

totally stealing this, thanks!

kngrsll · 11-05-2009, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morgan

totally stealing this, thanks!

lol, you are the epitomy of my last post... supercharger AND slicks :p

Morgan · 11-05-2009, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kngrsll

lol, you are the epitomy of my last post... supercharger AND slicks :p

you are absolutely right, pick a class - shoot for that. Changing classes is EXPENSIVE, trust me on this!

Don't get beaten down by who you beat/who is beating you drama, just go to have fun, spend what your budget allows and for god sakes... have fun!

I have slicks and a supercharger; if I could do it again, I'd go with the tires and move into FSP and save myself $3000...

I feel like a broken record, but the yaris can be surprising and quick, but no matter what, it will never be fast at autox - its just not built for it.

ozmdd · 11-05-2009, 08:53 PM

Your CRX is one of the best STS platforms out there!!

As far as being fast at autox, its really 90% driver until you get up to the higher regional levels. When you drive so well that you can't possibly get any faster times out of your CRX/Yaris/whatever, THEN its time to think about buying a "serious" car or major upgrades.
Besides tires, anything you can do to your car can be made pointless by a better driver in an inferior car. But if you are the better driver, its a lot more fun. The best day of my racing life involved turning faster laps than 2 S2000's and a Vette at a Time Trial. :)

justjesus · 11-06-2009, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kngrsll

yeah, agreed.... i would try ST 1st.... it wont be competitive nationally, but locally, it could do alright.

if you really hate a having any sort of bank account, you can try SM and do everything above with a turbo or supercharger, or both.

i like to pick a class that will keep my from spending alot of money (ie not slicks, not engine mods lol.) but to each their own.

YIKES. ST is what I would stear clear from! Those civic hatchbacks kick some serious butt!
SM is where the tech guy said I should be, due to my mods. More on that later.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morgan

you are absolutely right, pick a class - shoot for that. Changing classes is EXPENSIVE, trust me on this!

Don't get beaten down by who you beat/who is beating you drama, just go to have fun, spend what your budget allows and for god sakes... have fun!

I feel like a broken record, but the yaris can be surprising and quick, but no matter what, it will never be fast at autox - its just not built for it.

haha. definitely looking at this just for fun! And I'm not getting beat down. Me and Noogie just laugh it off. It's all in fun.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozmdd

Your CRX is one of the best STS platforms out there!!
... THEN its time to think about buying a "serious" car or major upgrades.
... The best day of my racing life involved turning faster laps than 2 S2000's and a Vette at a Time Trial. :)

I thought I belonged in STS, but, my B16A engine swap puts me in SM, per the tech guy. Looking at the cars in that class, I know I won't be competitive. BUT, this is all for fun.

The main reason I'm considering boost, is, well...I've been planning on boosting my CRX for some time. So that's the reason I was thinking of boost and switching classes to SM. My suspension is FAR from sorted. I had to see how well it did, prior to making my mods. And mostly, these were gonna be mods I'd be doing anyway

SOOOO, I think I'll be leaving the Yaris fairly stock for now, and eventually improve the CRX and switch classes. All in the name of fun!

Thanks for all your input guys, and young lady

.
For comparison sake, check out the times from that one event. I'm listed as, well, "Jesus" hehe
https://axwaresystems.com/axorm/file...09_fin.htm#STS

justjesus · 11-06-2009, 01:41 PM

Oh wow. Looking at that time sheet again, I noticed the ST civic hatchback guys are running with, if not better, than the SM guys!

chongopants · 11-07-2009, 05:00 PM

so if I am going for SM, with a pretty much stock car I am gonna get PWN'ed right? B/C that is what I would have to do.

10-12-2009, 11:15 PM	#1
ozmdd Reluctantly Crouched... Drives: 2008 Yaris HB M/T Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: DFW, TX Posts: 867	SCCA Classing Worksheet Since there are so many misconceptions about SCCA classing for Autocross, I thought I'd post this handy-dandy worksheet. Note that this doesn't include the upcoming STR class.

10-12-2009, 11:21 PM	#2
lilredrocket Slowy getting there View User's Garage Drives: 08 Liftback Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: DFW, Texas Posts: 1,464	I can't see it but it may just be my computer __________________

10-13-2009, 01:23 AM	#4
lilredrocket Slowy getting there View User's Garage Drives: 08 Liftback Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: DFW, Texas Posts: 1,464	Yep __________________

11-05-2009, 06:24 PM	#11
kngrsll Apexing Egg!! Drives: 07 Toyota Yaris white hatch Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Spartanburg, SC Posts: 872	yeah, agreed. if you want to be competitive and not spend alot of money in a Yaris locally, i would try ST 1st. you can do most bolt ons and stay legal and you dont need to buy slicks. it wont be competitive nationally, but locally, it could do alright. if you really feel like spending money, you can bump up to FSP. then you need biiig slicks, an LSD at a minimum. if you really hate a having any sort of bank account, you can try SM and do everything above with a turbo or supercharger, or both. i like to pick a class that will keep my from spending alot of money (ie not slicks, not engine mods lol.) but to each their own. __________________ HighTach Motorsports 2007 Toyota Yaris-ARGH!! Mods: Tokico HTS, 6.6 kg F, 6.1 kg R custom springs, 23 mm RSB, 2-way TRD LSD, 15x7 +25 Team Dynamic wheels, 195/55/15 Dunlop Star Specs, Cobra Suzuka S

11-05-2009, 06:33 PM	#12
Morgan View User's Garage Drives: 07 MM LB Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: PCB, FL Posts: 504	totally stealing this, thanks! __________________

10-12-2009, 11:37 PM	#3
ozmdd Reluctantly Crouched... Drives: 2008 Yaris HB M/T Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: DFW, TX Posts: 867	do you have adobe reader?

10-13-2009, 09:37 PM	#6
ozmdd Reluctantly Crouched... Drives: 2008 Yaris HB M/T Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: DFW, TX Posts: 867	OK. I'll try a different method. It shows up for me.

10-13-2009, 09:41 PM	#7
ozmdd Reluctantly Crouched... Drives: 2008 Yaris HB M/T Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: DFW, TX Posts: 867	Just hit this link: http://autocross.com/er/carmodandclassification.pdf

11-05-2009, 05:30 PM	#9
justjesus View User's Garage Drives: 2008 Liftback Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Orange County Posts: 962	NICE WORKSHEET! except, that it makes me cry! ahh geez. can't do much to the yaris to keep it in HS. My CRX looks to be a knife in a gun fight. Oh dear. Time to boost.

11-05-2009, 08:53 PM	#15
ozmdd Reluctantly Crouched... Drives: 2008 Yaris HB M/T Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: DFW, TX Posts: 867	Your CRX is one of the best STS platforms out there!! As far as being fast at autox, its really 90% driver until you get up to the higher regional levels. When you drive so well that you can't possibly get any faster times out of your CRX/Yaris/whatever, THEN its time to think about buying a "serious" car or major upgrades. Besides tires, anything you can do to your car can be made pointless by a better driver in an inferior car. But if you are the better driver, its a lot more fun. The best day of my racing life involved turning faster laps than 2 S2000's and a Vette at a Time Trial. :)

11-06-2009, 01:41 PM	#17
justjesus View User's Garage Drives: 2008 Liftback Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Orange County Posts: 962	Oh wow. Looking at that time sheet again, I noticed the ST civic hatchback guys are running with, if not better, than the SM guys!

11-07-2009, 05:00 PM	#18
chongopants Banned View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris Hatchback Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Houston Posts: 300	so if I am going for SM, with a pretty much stock car I am gonna get PWN'ed right? B/C that is what I would have to do.

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