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07-06-2011, 10:42 AM | #1 | |
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Autoblog: Revised Yaris to debut this year
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So it looks like the trusty 1NZ-FE will be staying around. Thoughts? Good? Bad? Otherwise?
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07-06-2011, 03:03 PM | #2 | |
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Here in Europe we have the modern engines since 2009 but still no compressor or turbo kits available. Only a few handmade conversions which are way too expensive. |
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07-06-2011, 03:25 PM | #3 |
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Really, I've been happy with my 1NZ-FE. I have intake, header, and and axle-back exhaust and routinely get 33-40 MPG. It's been plenty reliable, sans the clutch having to be replaced at 28,000 miles (same thing happend in my 2005 Scion xB). I wouldn't be heartbroken if they keep the engine yet another year. It has been in the U.S. since 2000 (Toyota Echo).
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07-06-2011, 03:41 PM | #4 |
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I sure hope we get the start-stop, CVT option and heaven help us - could we hope for direct injection? That's what the car needs to stay competitive mileage wise if they keep the current motor. Absent these things I'll be sticking with my 2009.
The big problem with the Yaris in the USA is that it comes from Japan and competes with cars built in Mexico and Korea making it impossible for Toyota financially to give us the content it needs to be a first class competitor in it's segment. Until Toyota decides to get behind the C segment in the USA and invest in a USA or Mexican plant for the C segment the Yaris will always just be a place holder for them. I think they would at this point rather sell you a Corolla. Last edited by Lewis; 07-08-2011 at 04:37 AM. |
07-10-2011, 08:40 PM | #5 | |
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Building in Japan is expensive, and building the Yaris with barely any margin for profit is extremely tough for Toyota. I had heard rumors about Toyota moving production to the US. Thing is, reliability is superb out of Japan which is one of the reasons why the Yaris is one of the most reliable cars ever created. Some of that quality may suffer if moved elsewhere. For the US, yes, the Yaris has to be priced low. Otherwise, everyone just goes for the Corolla. It's not like being in Japan or Europe where people pay good money for small cars. I don't mind them carrying over the engine, the thing is bullet proof. But like you said, they need serious efficiency upgrades for it. Everyone's doing 40 mpg now, Toyota is expected to beat that. |
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07-11-2011, 09:44 AM | #6 |
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There might be some hope for Toyota in the price wars at least as far as Hyundai/Kia goes.These two have really been biting into US makers sales the last few years.The Union boys aren't going to take that sitting down with all their Dem buddies looking for campaign contributions.They're going to want some hefty new import tax's imposed in return on the Korean makers pronto just as they got on Japan.
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07-12-2011, 09:08 AM | #7 |
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I wouldn't worry about the quality of a western hemisphere built Yaris Kal. The benefits to buyers here would, IMO, vastly outweigh the risks. Car manufacturing is now a mature well understood technology whose quality levels are simply the result of the amount of money manufacturers are willing to assign to it's priority. Just look at what Ford and Hyundai have been able to do with their quality scores since they've decided to invest in better quality production. Toyota's quality problems the last few years are the result of an emphasis on expansion (becoming #1 in sales) over investments in quality and innovation. Seeing where that took them might result in some reconsideration in the future.
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