Toyota Yaris Forums - Ultimate Yaris Enthusiast Site
 

 


 
Go Back   Toyota Yaris Forums - Ultimate Yaris Enthusiast Site > Second Generation Toyota Yaris Main Rooms > New YARIS Purchase Forum
  The Tire Rack

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-06-2018, 07:58 PM   #1
Partsguy19
 
Drives: 2007 Toyota Yaris
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Asheboro NC
Posts: 2
Highway Driving Question

Hi All,

I'm getting ready to pickup a 2007 Yaris sedan S model. Driving my Tahoe home from work in a moderate downpour got me wondering a few things and I knew I could get answers here. I will be driving my Yaris 90% highway. It currently has 135k on it with great service history.

1) How does the Yaris do at 70 to 80mph? Does it glide right along? What's the average RPM at 75mph?

2) How does the Yaris do in the rain cruising down the highway? Since it's a light car does it hydroplane easy?

I guess these are my first two questions for now.

Thank you all!
Partsguy19 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2018, 08:24 PM   #2
ern-diz
 
ern-diz's Avatar
 
Drives: 2007 Liftback
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: CA all day
Posts: 3,231
Hello and welcome.

I average between 70 and 80 mph on the freeway. I will say that the car was significantly more bouncy on the freeway at speed than my Honda Civic was. Nothing outrageous but it was noticeable. It improved with bigger wheels and tires. Again, it wasn't necessary, I got them for looks, but I saw improvement in how the car felt on the freeway.

Rain has always had more to do with tires than anything else, in my experience. The first set of aftermarket wheels I got for my car came with some super hard 'Sunny' brand tires, which were garbage. The car would slip in the rain when taking off from a stop. Terrible traction. Once I went to some Toyo tires, and Michelin thereafter, the rain has been a non-issue.
__________________
On Instagram

On Wheelwell

#TeamWheelwell #ForTheBuild
ern-diz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2018, 08:56 PM   #3
Partsguy19
 
Drives: 2007 Toyota Yaris
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Asheboro NC
Posts: 2
Thank you for the reply. Being the "S" model it has 15" tires (I would guess that's a plus).

I haven't owned a small car in about 20 years but my new drive to work is forcing me to "make sense" with my commute and save a ton of money!!

As far as tire choice goes, I have learned over the years you can't beat Michelin tires. Pay the price for them and they will prove their cost.
Partsguy19 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2018, 12:13 PM   #4
ern-diz
 
ern-diz's Avatar
 
Drives: 2007 Liftback
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: CA all day
Posts: 3,231
Quote:
Originally Posted by Partsguy19 View Post
Thank you for the reply. Being the "S" model it has 15" tires (I would guess that's a plus).

I haven't owned a small car in about 20 years but my new drive to work is forcing me to "make sense" with my commute and save a ton of money!!

As far as tire choice goes, I have learned over the years you can't beat Michelin tires. Pay the price for them and they will prove their cost.
I agree, the wider wheel/tire combo of the S trim should help, and I'm also with you about Michelin. Best all-season tires I've ever ran.
__________________
On Instagram

On Wheelwell

#TeamWheelwell #ForTheBuild
ern-diz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2018, 10:05 PM   #5
Captain Yaris
 
Captain Yaris's Avatar
 
Drives: 2016 Yaris 3 Dr Super White
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: SoFloYo
Posts: 259
Congrats on the car! I drive about 90% highway and I will tell you that I had complained about wandering issues at 70+ mph before. Many members steered me the right way. I am still working on the issue but the conclusion that Iíve come to is that these cars are so light, they are influenced by every small imperfection in the road and tread pattern matters. Kimona is a member on here who has good advice. My current wheel setup is 16x7.5 inch wheels with 205/50 series tires. I plan on adding a rear sway bar, lowering springs, and switch to a 3 ribbed tire pattern. I really donít want to experiment with front/rear spoilers, diffusers, or canards but I will attack that after. Itís funny but I just picked up my mother from the airport today and with myself, her, my 8 yr old son and her 2 suitcases with a full tank of gas, the car tracked straight and true.
Captain Yaris is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-08-2018, 04:21 AM   #6
scylla
 
Drives: 2015 Yaris L
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Illinois
Posts: 81
When I got my Yaris, my first drive on the interstate shocked me at how unstable it felt in the wind. Especially passing or being passed by semi trucks. After I installed a rear sway bar those problems dropped by about 70% I would say. Now on the interstate it feels like pretty much any other car I have ever owned.
scylla is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2018, 05:36 AM   #7
kimmysawi
Banned
 
Drives: Honda accord
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: USA
Posts: 4
Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain Yaris View Post
Congrats on the car! I drive about 90% highway and I will tell you that I had complained about wandering issues at 70+ mph before. Many members steered me the right way. see reviews of phenq diet pillsI am still working on the issue but the conclusion that Iíve come to is that these cars are so light, they are influenced by every small imperfection in the road and tread pattern matters. Kimona is a member on here who has good advice. My current wheel setup is 16x7.5 inch wheels with 205/50 series tires. I plan on adding a rear sway bar, lowering springs, and switch to a 3 ribbed tire pattern. I really donít want to experiment with front/rear spoilers, diffusers, or canards but I will attack that after. Itís funny but I just picked up my mother from the airport today and with myself, her, my 8 yr old son and her 2 suitcases with a full tank of gas, the car tracked straight and true.
Don't you think that diffusers was far better ?
kimmysawi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2018, 11:45 AM   #8
maui
 
Drives: 2008 Yaris hatchback in white
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Maui Hawaii
Posts: 38
terrible on the highway

These little cars are terrible on the highway for several reasons

1) they only have 4 speed auto boxes, and they start buzzing at about
50mph, road noise is unacceptable, some have pulled interiors and
soundproofed. Manual trans may be better.

2) even with premium 195/60/15 Michelins handling at speed is just ok
Tires help dramatically with the econobox.

3) they have very little road presence and other drivers give them little if any
respect

Have 8 years of experience with both sedan and hatch, mostly maintaining
but driving on occasion. Comparing with 5 series BMW and E class
Mercedes is not fair but even Camry was significantly better and we are
talking '03, 01, and 00 vintage.

On the positive note they handle just fine at speeds less than 50 mph and
are super easy to maneuver and park. Maintenance could not be easier
or less expensive. Great fuel economy.
With a good ceramic tint, are much nicer inside especially with dark 6"
band across top of windshield.
maui is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2018, 12:42 PM   #9
ern-diz
 
ern-diz's Avatar
 
Drives: 2007 Liftback
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: CA all day
Posts: 3,231
Quote:
Originally Posted by maui View Post
These little cars are terrible on the highway for several reasons

1) they only have 4 speed auto boxes, and they start buzzing at about
50mph, road noise is unacceptable, some have pulled interiors and
soundproofed. Manual trans may be better.

2) even with premium 195/60/15 Michelins handling at speed is just ok
Tires help dramatically with the econobox.

3) they have very little road presence and other drivers give them little if any
respect

Have 8 years of experience with both sedan and hatch, mostly maintaining
but driving on occasion. Comparing with 5 series BMW and E class
Mercedes is not fair but even Camry was significantly better and we are
talking '03, 01, and 00 vintage.

On the positive note they handle just fine at speeds less than 50 mph and
are super easy to maneuver and park. Maintenance could not be easier
or less expensive. Great fuel economy.
With a good ceramic tint, are much nicer inside especially with dark 6"
band across top of windshield.
I wonder if it's a road thing? I've had my hatch for over 10 years now and I regularly bomb around these SoCal highways and byways at 80 MPH and it feels good. More visceral than a luxury sedan, of course, but I don't mind that. I'm not trying to say it's a drivers car by any means, but I wouldn't call it terrible either.

We test drove a Hyundai Sonata back in 2011 and it felt like it was on water while going down the road. Bouncing and rolling all over the place. I'd take my Yaris hatch over that heap of shit every day of the weak and twice on Sunday.
__________________
On Instagram

On Wheelwell

#TeamWheelwell #ForTheBuild
ern-diz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2018, 07:10 PM   #10
Kalispel
 
Kalispel's Avatar
 
Drives: '15 Yaris SE 5MT
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Arizona (USA)
Posts: 1,059
Not sure about the 4-spd automatic version Yaris, but my 2015 5-spd manual SE hatch is at 3000 RPM exactly @ 70 MPH & about 3150 @ 75 MPH (In my overdrive 5th gear). My Mon-Fri round trip commute is a bit over 60 miles total daily. I am ahead of the traffic rush in the morning & when I leave work, so I very rarely ever get into a stop & go jam (usually only when an accident has occurred). Thus, 95% of my daily trip is comfortably cruising along between 70-75 MPH in the right or middle expressway lane & grooving to my MP3 collection off the USB drive. So far, over my 3 years of ownership, my Yaris has been averaging 41.5 MPG, overall - better than I was expecting when I purchased it.

I know that the 2015+ hatch refresh received some added refinement in the form of a stiffer chassis (more spot welds), retuned suspension/steering & better sound insulation. The ride is stiffer than my old Honda Accord, but the car has lower-profile 195/50/16 tires, a stiffer suspension setup, etc. Still, even in its factory state, it drove fine at highway speeds for the size/weight of the vehicle (no tracking issues, etc.), & noise suppression levels were better than I expected really. I did notice later, however, that adding a TRD rear-sway-bar improved the feel of the car even more against wind buffeting, body-roll on corners/curves, etc. With a stock suspension, it is the best bang-for-the-buck performance/stability modification that you can make to the Yaris hatch (or 2nd gen sedan). We have some crazy dust/wind storms out here sometimes & the occasional monsoon-style downpour, & I still felt perfectly confident driving my little Yaris in those conditions. It handles itself like a champ, especially with the rear-sway-bar setup.

In closing, tires (& PSI) also make a huge difference on how the car performs, with regards to most of your questions. All brands/types/sizes are NOT created equal when it comes to tracking, rain, noise, comfort, MPG, etc. The factory Bridgestone tires on my SE have been pretty decent/balanced for me across-the-board thus-far, but I am looking forward to trying the 195/50/16 Yokohama YK740 GTX tires next in about another 5K or so miles (I am currently approaching 40K miles on my Yaris).

-

Last edited by Kalispel; 08-04-2018 at 02:35 AM.
Kalispel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-04-2018, 10:45 AM   #11
Captain Yaris
 
Captain Yaris's Avatar
 
Drives: 2016 Yaris 3 Dr Super White
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: SoFloYo
Posts: 259
Quote:
Originally Posted by kimmysawi View Post
Don't you think that diffusers was far better ?
I havenít done any diffuser mods. To be honest, the rear sway bar did 70% of the job. I think lowered with stiffer suspension could iron out the rest.
Captain Yaris is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2018, 09:15 AM   #12
Bart68
 
Bart68's Avatar
 
Drives: 2007 Yaris
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Canada
Posts: 11
I live in British Columbia Canada and I do alot of mountain driving and these little cars are great, like others have said get good tires and enjoy the ride and you will be doing much more now that it won't kill you in fuel.
__________________
2006 YARIS RS

Bart68 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2018, 09:51 AM   #13
dogsridewith
 
Drives: 2007 2-door hatchback
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: USAnotCA
Posts: 596
Sedan might have less freeway tail wag than the hatchbacks (most of respondents here.)
dogsridewith is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
So I'm driving down the highway... ecnal General Yaris / Vitz Discussion 23 09-01-2009 06:22 PM
Technical question about bigger injectors LtNoogie Forced Induction Forum 1 08-14-2009 03:34 PM
Driving on the highway seems like I'm stressing the car xtremesniper General Yaris / Vitz Discussion 29 08-10-2009 03:10 PM
Bad Driving Techniques Altitude General Yaris / Vitz Discussion 13 02-10-2009 06:57 PM
driving harsher..... hoahmaru General Yaris / Vitz Discussion 7 04-09-2006 02:59 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:26 AM.




YarisWorld
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.