2010 higher mileage or 2008 lower mileage? - Toyota Yaris Forums

chocolab · 07-23-2013, 02:01 PM

Been a member here for a while but never bought my Yaris. Kind of chickened out last fall and got a different car, but the Yaris attraction never went away. Now I'm getting more serious about getting one again.

Have two cars in mind right now, both listed for about the same price. NADA on each is very close. Both are the same color, both have the same power package and split rear seat (which is important to me), but one is a 2010 with about 75k miles and one is a 2008 with about 54k miles. History report on both looks good.

Which would you choose? In the past I'd probably have gone for the lower miles, but my inclination here is actually to go for the 2010, mainly because I like the tach (manual transmission) and prefer the 2010's different upholstery. Plus I need to add cruise and from what I've read here it's easier on the 2010.

Am I off base? Which would you choose?

nookandcrannycar · 07-23-2013, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chocolab

Been a member here for a while but never bought my Yaris. Kind of chickened out last fall and got a different car, but the Yaris attraction never went away. Now I'm getting more serious about getting one again.

Have two cars in mind right now, both listed for about the same price. NADA on each is very close. Both are the same color, both have the same power package and split rear seat (which is important to me), but one is a 2010 with about 75k miles and one is a 2008 with about 54k miles. History report on both looks good.

Which would you choose? In the past I'd probably have gone for the lower miles, but my inclination here is actually to go for the 2010, mainly because I like the tach (manual transmission) and prefer the 2010's different upholstery. Plus I need to add cruise and from what I've read here it's easier on the 2010.

Am I off base? Which would you choose?

I agree. I don't think you're off base. If Mazilla, Trini, Yaris9876, Contraband831, nookandcrannycar (

), Kal-El....and others that aren't coming to mind off the top of my head...are any indication, then 21 k mies in the 'life' of a Yaris is a fairly insignificant number.

Flipper_1938 · 07-23-2013, 07:43 PM

I'd go manual trans. If they were both manual trans, I'd go 2008.

My dad had a 2007 or 2008 and it was faster than my 2010 (both manual trans sedans). I think the 2010 has a more conservative tune to be damn sure there is no sudden acceleration ....un-intended or not.

BEEF · 07-23-2013, 09:02 PM

I thought adding cruise was the same regardless. I have a 2008 and have added both cruise and a tach and they were both relatively simple.

You may want to get with CTscott on the cruise thing as his walkthrough is amazing... truly amazing. It took a while but it wasn't hard on my 2008. I spent most of the time making sure wires were hidden and it looked right.

I am biased to the 2008 as I like the styling of that year. Miles wouldn't scare me nor would age. All around, either car would be a good one.

Kal-El · 07-23-2013, 10:27 PM

I would go with the 2010. Miles are nothing on these cars. Better to go with the newer, slightly updated car with less environmental wear on it. Plus, more miles driven in a shorter time period is usually better. It likely means more highway miles vs. more city miles that are likely on the '08.

NEexpat · 07-23-2013, 10:31 PM

I too would go with the 2010.

It would probably have the "good" control arm bolts and I believe they had sorted the waterpump issues by then. ;)

ron3 · 07-24-2013, 05:29 AM

I would go with automatic, much better resale value. just my 2 cents

07liftback · 07-24-2013, 07:30 PM

Manual transmission can yield anywhere from 3-15 mpg difference if driven carefully. But yes, the resale issue may come up if you plan to keep it for under ten years. The manual transmission also requires much less maintenance and will be easier to fix if you do have issues down the road.

Hershey · 07-24-2013, 11:10 PM

'08 lower . Lower payment as well , I assume .

D&D · 08-07-2013, 04:21 PM

I'd go with the 2010, no question about it. I don't consider 75k miles as high mileage, especially on a car like these. And I too like the 2010 upholstery better and would love to have a factory tach.

And yes, it is easier to add cruise to a 2010 than to a 2008... http://web.newsguy.com/mcclure/Yaris...2020110315.pdf

chocolab · 08-09-2013, 05:13 PM

Thanks, guys. Hadn't even heard about the waterpump or control arm bolt issues, so that helps, too.

The '08 was sold shortly after I posted this but the 2010 is still around, and it's the one I favored anyway. The '10 is a long way from me and still a bit overpriced so I'll see how it works out.

BTW, guess I wasn't clear but the M/T is mandatory! Have never owned an A/T car and hope I never do. :)

ron3 · 08-10-2013, 06:27 AM

You might like an automatic !

UberSilver · 08-10-2013, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 07liftback

Manual transmission can yield anywhere from 3-15 mpg difference if driven carefully. But yes, the resale issue may come up if you plan to keep it for under ten years. The manual transmission also requires much less maintenance and will be easier to fix if you do have issues down the road.

Not sure about this, as I've got 43 mpg with my auto. Mix driving gets 34 and in town only gets 31.

As far as maintenance go's. Auto's do not require any, but fluid change every 5 years.

A manual will require oil change every 5 years, and if your not good with a clutch, you'll need a new one as well. Your master or slave could also fail.

So I'm not sure about your belief of more maintenance for an auto.

As for the OP, take the 2010, as newer is almost always better when it comes to cars.

Chuck G · 08-10-2013, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UberSilver

Not sure about this, as I've got 43 mpg with my auto. Mix driving gets 34 and in town only gets 31.

As far as maintenance go's. Auto's do not require any, but fluid change every 5 years.

A manual will require oil change every 5 years, and if your not good with a clutch, you'll need a new one as well. Your master or slave could also fail.

So I'm not sure about your belief of more maintenance for an auto.

As for the OP, take the 2010, as newer is almost always better when it comes to cars.

I'm a huge fan of the Yaris automatic and regularly get 40-44 MPG

Hershey · 08-10-2013, 09:53 PM

^ +2 . Just got 44.199 m.p.g. calculated . ^

fnkngrv · 08-11-2013, 12:06 AM

Bottom line with mpg is really how you drive the damned thing nowadays. Personally I have been in several slushbox Yarii and I have found all of them to be real dogs compared to the stick version and that is comparing them non-boosted. The only gripe that I have with the C50 is the apparent synchro issue or whatever it is that is causing them to wear out early even with a stock motor if you use it spirited. There have been several folks now that have indicated an issue with shifting either into 1st, 2nd, or 3rd after a while. I began experiencing the problem around 28k miles. I am actually working on smooth talking my old tech school instructor to take my old C50 into the shop for the senior class to dismantle and really take a look at what the guts appear to be like now. When I removed it after only roughly 80k I was pretty much having to force it into 3rd gear and many times I would have to actually shift to 2nd before 1st. I ran 30k boosted of the 80k.

Really in the long run unless you are a struggling individual financially getting an extra 2-3mpg to me is just obsessing when you also compare it to how much more time over the duration you are taking getting from point A to B. Now if fuel goes up over 5 bucks a gallon then sure those extra miles per tank to me might be worth it, but I would love to see someone instead track all of the minutes/hours/days they lose each year working all these tweaks to squeeze out those extra few mpg. Other than that I think that a lot of folks just love trying to have bragging rights on what their FE is in their ride. It becomes a game, but once again moreso an obsession in my book. I only track as of the last couple years my mpg when I am driving to client sites or to the airport that is 200 miles away merely to keep myself in check because the mileage stipend is free cash in the pocket.

At any rate, I would still go with a stick any day of the week over the slushbox, but creature comforts inside the vehicle are also important too especially if you spend many hours a week in your ride.

Hershey · 08-11-2013, 10:48 AM

It's fun trying to get the best tank . $3.85+ a gallon does have an impact on many . Plus , if someone is thinking of purchasing a new or used YARIS they may see what the Yaris is capable of getting for gas mileage .

07-23-2013, 02:01 PM	#1
chocolab Drives: bmw Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Tornado Alley Posts: 45	2010 higher mileage or 2008 lower mileage? Been a member here for a while but never bought my Yaris. Kind of chickened out last fall and got a different car, but the Yaris attraction never went away. Now I'm getting more serious about getting one again. Have two cars in mind right now, both listed for about the same price. NADA on each is very close. Both are the same color, both have the same power package and split rear seat (which is important to me), but one is a 2010 with about 75k miles and one is a 2008 with about 54k miles. History report on both looks good. Which would you choose? In the past I'd probably have gone for the lower miles, but my inclination here is actually to go for the 2010, mainly because I like the tach (manual transmission) and prefer the 2010's different upholstery. Plus I need to add cruise and from what I've read here it's easier on the 2010. Am I off base? Which would you choose?

07-23-2013, 09:02 PM	#4
BEEF View User's Garage Drives: 2008 yaris 3d Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: north carolina Posts: 732	I thought adding cruise was the same regardless. I have a 2008 and have added both cruise and a tach and they were both relatively simple. You may want to get with CTscott on the cruise thing as his walkthrough is amazing... truly amazing. It took a while but it wasn't hard on my 2008. I spent most of the time making sure wires were hidden and it looked right. I am biased to the 2008 as I like the styling of that year. Miles wouldn't scare me nor would age. All around, either car would be a good one. __________________ Be the change you wish to see in the world -Mahatma Gandhi-

08-11-2013, 12:06 AM	#16
fnkngrv Mr. 155 and climbing View User's Garage Drives: Seriously Modded 07 Sedan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: In The Hotbox Posts: 4,742	Bottom line with mpg is really how you drive the damned thing nowadays. Personally I have been in several slushbox Yarii and I have found all of them to be real dogs compared to the stick version and that is comparing them non-boosted. The only gripe that I have with the C50 is the apparent synchro issue or whatever it is that is causing them to wear out early even with a stock motor if you use it spirited. There have been several folks now that have indicated an issue with shifting either into 1st, 2nd, or 3rd after a while. I began experiencing the problem around 28k miles. I am actually working on smooth talking my old tech school instructor to take my old C50 into the shop for the senior class to dismantle and really take a look at what the guts appear to be like now. When I removed it after only roughly 80k I was pretty much having to force it into 3rd gear and many times I would have to actually shift to 2nd before 1st. I ran 30k boosted of the 80k. Really in the long run unless you are a struggling individual financially getting an extra 2-3mpg to me is just obsessing when you also compare it to how much more time over the duration you are taking getting from point A to B. Now if fuel goes up over 5 bucks a gallon then sure those extra miles per tank to me might be worth it, but I would love to see someone instead track all of the minutes/hours/days they lose each year working all these tweaks to squeeze out those extra few mpg. Other than that I think that a lot of folks just love trying to have bragging rights on what their FE is in their ride. It becomes a game, but once again moreso an obsession in my book. I only track as of the last couple years my mpg when I am driving to client sites or to the airport that is 200 miles away merely to keep myself in check because the mileage stipend is free cash in the pocket. At any rate, I would still go with a stick any day of the week over the slushbox, but creature comforts inside the vehicle are also important too especially if you spend many hours a week in your ride. __________________ Team Tiamat Racing on Facebook Youtube Channel: Team Tiamat Racing *Class record holder in Land Speed @ 154.5mph for 1.5 mile and 145.5mph in the mile in the F (2.016 to 3.014 L), G (1.524 to 2.015 L), and H (1.016 to 1.523 L) classes.*

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Just filled up the tank with 91 octane premium fuel	darkmoon87	General Yaris / Vitz Discussion	105	10-02-2016 08:35 PM
*The Engine Oil Bible*	Hussain-Vtec	Performance Modifications	20	09-28-2016 02:47 PM
Increased ground clearance between 2008 and 2010 Sedan	unclenefeesa	Wheels, Tires and Suspension Forum sponsored by The Tire Rack	6	01-17-2013 05:49 AM
nst underdrive pulleys lower gas mileage?	b20vteg	Performance Modifications	10	08-21-2012 12:23 AM

07-23-2013, 07:43 PM	#3
Flipper_1938 Drives: 2010 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Kentucky Posts: 529	I'd go manual trans. If they were both manual trans, I'd go 2008. My dad had a 2007 or 2008 and it was faster than my 2010 (both manual trans sedans). I think the 2010 has a more conservative tune to be damn sure there is no sudden acceleration ....un-intended or not.

07-23-2013, 10:27 PM	#5
Kal-El Drives: 07 Yaris S Sedan 5-Speed Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 2,179	I would go with the 2010. Miles are nothing on these cars. Better to go with the newer, slightly updated car with less environmental wear on it. Plus, more miles driven in a shorter time period is usually better. It likely means more highway miles vs. more city miles that are likely on the '08.

07-23-2013, 10:31 PM	#6
NEexpat Drives: 2009, auto, 4dr LB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: S.E. New England Posts: 292	I too would go with the 2010. It would probably have the "good" control arm bolts and I believe they had sorted the waterpump issues by then. ;)

07-24-2013, 05:29 AM	#7
ron3 Drives: 2012 yaris HB 5door LE auto. Join Date: May 2013 Location: Knoxville TN Posts: 98	I would go with automatic, much better resale value. just my 2 cents

07-24-2013, 07:30 PM	#8
07liftback Drives: 07 Yaris Liftback Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Bay Area Posts: 147	Manual transmission can yield anywhere from 3-15 mpg difference if driven carefully. But yes, the resale issue may come up if you plan to keep it for under ten years. The manual transmission also requires much less maintenance and will be easier to fix if you do have issues down the road.

07-24-2013, 11:10 PM	#9
Hershey Drives: 08 Yaris sedan auto / Fit auto Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: northeast Posts: 2,897	'08 lower . Lower payment as well , I assume .

08-07-2013, 04:21 PM	#10
D&D It's Quacktastic! Drives: '07 Yaris Hatch Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 204	I'd go with the 2010, no question about it. I don't consider 75k miles as high mileage, especially on a car like these. And I too like the 2010 upholstery better and would love to have a factory tach. And yes, it is easier to add cruise to a 2010 than to a 2008... http://web.newsguy.com/mcclure/Yaris...2020110315.pdf

08-09-2013, 05:13 PM	#11
chocolab Drives: bmw Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Tornado Alley Posts: 45	Thanks, guys. Hadn't even heard about the waterpump or control arm bolt issues, so that helps, too. The '08 was sold shortly after I posted this but the 2010 is still around, and it's the one I favored anyway. The '10 is a long way from me and still a bit overpriced so I'll see how it works out. BTW, guess I wasn't clear but the M/T is mandatory! Have never owned an A/T car and hope I never do. :)

08-10-2013, 06:27 AM	#12
ron3 Drives: 2012 yaris HB 5door LE auto. Join Date: May 2013 Location: Knoxville TN Posts: 98	You might like an automatic !

08-10-2013, 09:53 PM	#15
Hershey Drives: 08 Yaris sedan auto / Fit auto Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: northeast Posts: 2,897	^ +2 . Just got 44.199 m.p.g. calculated . ^

08-11-2013, 10:48 AM	#17
Hershey Drives: 08 Yaris sedan auto / Fit auto Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: northeast Posts: 2,897	It's fun trying to get the best tank . $3.85+ a gallon does have an impact on many . Plus , if someone is thinking of purchasing a new or used YARIS they may see what the Yaris is capable of getting for gas mileage .