Oil loss in new car - Toyota Yaris Forums

bentjazz · 10-23-2011, 01:22 AM

Hi Yarisworlders,

I have a 2010 3 door Yaris lb with 6,600 miles. I noticed that my oil on my dipstick has dropped slightly, leading me to believe that I'm consuming oil somehow. Is this normal? It kind of bothers me.
Thank you.

Stove · 10-23-2011, 02:36 AM

My 10' 5-door doesn't lose/consume any (not a noticeable amount anyway) between oil changes. I have almost 20,000 on the car and I don't baby it at all. I would be concerned as well if I was seeing oil loss at 6600 miles.
You should have had at least 1 oil/filter change by now. Check around the engine for traces of oil. I'd look around the oil filter first to see if the seal is weeping. If it was me and I didn't see any obvious leaks, I'd check it daily and if it continues to lose oil, I'd stop by the dealer and have them look at it.

Klink10 · 10-23-2011, 05:00 AM

When are you checking the level, right after driving or before driving after the car sits overnight? My rule of thumb is to ck in AM when cold. This has allowed the oil time to get back into the pan where the measurement is taken. (My opinion and may not be that of others)

Ditto Stove's advice.

bentjazz · 10-23-2011, 07:19 AM

I'm checking the car when it's cold.
I check the oil level weekly. I've always been kind of anal/retentive about oil level and paranoid about leaks. My old Corolla started leaking around 80,000 miles, but this is ridiculous. This is disconcerting.
Thanks Stove and Klink.

Yury · 10-23-2011, 08:43 AM

how much is the loss? how consistent? i mean there's always a way to misread the dipstick. i have different readings in my prelude occasionally - say one cold overnight and cold 24 hours after (car sitting all that time), may show more the second time.

bentjazz · 10-23-2011, 11:10 AM

Yury, it was around 3-4 mm off from the top of the dipstick. I usually ask them to fill it to the max indicator on the dipstick, that way it's easier for me to tell if there's a leak. I also read the dipstick at the same spot each week.

Gogogordy · 10-23-2011, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by bentjazz

Hi Yarisworlders,

I have a 2010 3 door Yaris lb with 6,600 miles. I noticed that my oil on my dipstick has dropped slightly, leading me to believe that I'm consuming oil somehow. Is this normal? It kind of bothers me.
Thank you.

New engines sometimes consume oil during the break-in process, even though the manufacturer says there is no break-in required, parts are still seating themselves and settling in.

I wouldn't panic, just keep an eye on things it's likely just an anomaly.

Yury · 10-23-2011, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by bentjazz

Yury, it was around 3-4 mm off from the top of the dipstick. I usually ask them to fill it to the max indicator on the dipstick, that way it's easier for me to tell if there's a leak. I also read the dipstick at the same spot each week.

hold on...did you check the level twice yourself and noted the difference?

also asking them to fill it to the certain level is pretty fruitless imo. because they will not keep it cold like you do, so their level would have little to do with what you see. Besides specific instructions like that have a way of falling thought the cracks. You can only trust yourself unfortunately.

Klink10 · 10-23-2011, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bentjazz

I'm checking the car when it's cold.
I check the oil level weekly. I've always been kind of anal/retentive about oil level and paranoid about leaks. My old Corolla started leaking around 80,000 miles, but this is ridiculous. This is disconcerting.
Thanks Stove and Klink.

Welcome. One more thing came to mind, are you checking on a flat/level surface? Just another thought.

Hershey · 10-23-2011, 11:49 PM

Is it quite cold where you're at ? If colder temps and setting overnight the oil condenses in the pan making it look lower on the stick than when looking at it in warmer weather . Might want to check it about an hour or so after use to get a good reading . Give it a try and let us know if any difference in the level . Park it in same spot when checking , like stated above . These dipsticks do like to play with your mind . Good luck .

RedRide · 10-24-2011, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Gogogordy

New engines sometimes consume oil during the break-in process, even though the manufacturer says there is no break-in required, parts are still seating themselves and settling in.

I wouldn't panic, just keep an eye on things it's likely just an anomaly.

Exactly.

yaris2010RS · 10-24-2011, 10:40 AM

i really hate to give a reference to this thread but it could be the issue you are having.
http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31470

i dont think any active members have found this issue on their yaris but its worth a shot to check out for urself

in my personal experience i have never seen any oil loss in the yaris. and i drive exactly the way my insurance company things a 20y/o will drive a hatchback :)

A-Dingo-Ate-My-Baby · 10-24-2011, 11:20 AM

hells bells

over 25,000 miles on the 2010 HB

using mobil 1 since oil change 1

when it is changed by the dealer, oil is exactly at the
top line of the dipstick when flat ground and cold

after 6000 miles, oil is still exactly there... same level
(of course some is missing, it has to be missing, but it is not noticeable on dipstick)

in other words, these things do not lose oil or shouldn't anyway

I am sure if I wailed on the thing at a racetrack for 6000 miles the
oil would be at half dipstick or lower, due to excessive pcv valve blowby

normal driving, with occasional foot-to-floor passing moves on highway, I see no loss

BLH · 10-24-2011, 11:29 AM

My 2007 Owners Manual actually has a section called.
Facts about engine oil consumption and what they would consider normal.

I have never seen any used in my 2007.
Though my dealer must only go by whole quarts {5 quarts sound like it} as mine is always over the full line. After an oil change.

Hershey · 10-24-2011, 02:55 PM

[QUOTE=yaris2010RS;611191]i really hate to give a reference to this thread but it could be the issue you are having.
http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31470

i dont think any active members have found this issue on their yaris but its worth a shot to check out for urself

Don't get me goin' on that matter again

. Could be a possibility . The dipstick did read lower at that time . There's no oil seapage / leakage since the fix and now using synthetic 5w-20 . I check the gasket every week or so . Did so yesterday and all is well

.

bentjazz · 10-24-2011, 05:10 PM

Oh man, I hope it's not the gasket. Always something to worry about.
I do check the car on a flat surface. I hope this isn't something serious. Ugh.
Thank you for all the great input, Yarisworlders.

bentjazz · 10-24-2011, 05:40 PM

Called Toyota and they said when I bring it in on Dec 13th for my oil change, they'll do some kind of test to see if there's a leak. I'll keep an eye on it until then....

Gogogordy · 10-24-2011, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by bentjazz

Called Toyota and they said when I bring it in on Dec 13th for my oil change, they'll do some kind of test to see if there's a leak. I'll keep an eye on it until then....

I would keep an eye on it all the time. Engines can and do "consume" oil, some more than others. From new, yes...sometimes. Sometimes they stop after a break-in, sometimes they don't. Some cars never do.

Good on you for checking, if they don't find a leak (here's to hoping) I'd still make a habit out of occasional dipsticking.

It's just a good habit to get into...

10-23-2011, 01:22 AM	#1
bentjazz Drives: 2009 Yaris--3dr MT Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Ohio Posts: 541	Oil loss in new car Hi Yarisworlders, I have a 2010 3 door Yaris lb with 6,600 miles. I noticed that my oil on my dipstick has dropped slightly, leading me to believe that I'm consuming oil somehow. Is this normal? It kind of bothers me. Thank you.

10-23-2011, 08:43 AM	#5
Yury Drives: 2008 5 Door Liftback Auto Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 157	how much is the loss? how consistent? i mean there's always a way to misread the dipstick. i have different readings in my prelude occasionally - say one cold overnight and cold 24 hours after (car sitting all that time), may show more the second time. __________________ 1999 Honda Prelude Base 5 speed (summer driver) 2008 5 Door Liftback Auto

10-24-2011, 10:40 AM	#12
yaris2010RS View User's Garage Drives: no-longer-boosted '10 Yaris Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Angus, Ontario Posts: 1,891	i really hate to give a reference to this thread but it could be the issue you are having. http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31470 i dont think any active members have found this issue on their yaris but its worth a shot to check out for urself in my personal experience i have never seen any oil loss in the yaris. and i drive exactly the way my insurance company things a 20y/o will drive a hatchback :) __________________ If it has boobs or wheels sooner or later your gonna have problems with it Last edited by yaris2010RS; 10-24-2011 at 12:11 PM.

10-24-2011, 11:29 AM	#14
BLH Drives: 2007 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: CT Posts: 271	My 2007 Owners Manual actually has a section called. Facts about engine oil consumption and what they would consider normal. I have never seen any used in my 2007. Though my dealer must only go by whole quarts {5 quarts sound like it} as mine is always over the full line. After an oil change. Last edited by BLH; 10-24-2011 at 11:31 AM. Reason: Add information.

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10-23-2011, 02:36 AM	#2
Stove View User's Garage Drives: 2010 Yaris 5 Door Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Tigard Oregon Posts: 314	My 10' 5-door doesn't lose/consume any (not a noticeable amount anyway) between oil changes. I have almost 20,000 on the car and I don't baby it at all. I would be concerned as well if I was seeing oil loss at 6600 miles. You should have had at least 1 oil/filter change by now. Check around the engine for traces of oil. I'd look around the oil filter first to see if the seal is weeping. If it was me and I didn't see any obvious leaks, I'd check it daily and if it continues to lose oil, I'd stop by the dealer and have them look at it.

10-23-2011, 05:00 AM	#3
Klink10 View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris Liftback Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: 910 Posts: 1,229	When are you checking the level, right after driving or before driving after the car sits overnight? My rule of thumb is to ck in AM when cold. This has allowed the oil time to get back into the pan where the measurement is taken. (My opinion and may not be that of others) Ditto Stove's advice.

10-23-2011, 07:19 AM	#4
bentjazz Drives: 2009 Yaris--3dr MT Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Ohio Posts: 541	I'm checking the car when it's cold. I check the oil level weekly. I've always been kind of anal/retentive about oil level and paranoid about leaks. My old Corolla started leaking around 80,000 miles, but this is ridiculous. This is disconcerting. Thanks Stove and Klink.

10-23-2011, 11:10 AM	#6
bentjazz Drives: 2009 Yaris--3dr MT Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Ohio Posts: 541	Yury, it was around 3-4 mm off from the top of the dipstick. I usually ask them to fill it to the max indicator on the dipstick, that way it's easier for me to tell if there's a leak. I also read the dipstick at the same spot each week.

10-23-2011, 11:49 PM	#10
Hershey Drives: 08 Yaris sedan auto / Fit auto Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: northeast Posts: 2,897	Is it quite cold where you're at ? If colder temps and setting overnight the oil condenses in the pan making it look lower on the stick than when looking at it in warmer weather . Might want to check it about an hour or so after use to get a good reading . Give it a try and let us know if any difference in the level . Park it in same spot when checking , like stated above . These dipsticks do like to play with your mind . Good luck .

10-24-2011, 11:20 AM	#13
A-Dingo-Ate-My-Baby Banned Drives: yaris Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: earth Posts: 364	hells bells over 25,000 miles on the 2010 HB using mobil 1 since oil change 1 when it is changed by the dealer, oil is exactly at the top line of the dipstick when flat ground and cold after 6000 miles, oil is still exactly there... same level (of course some is missing, it has to be missing, but it is not noticeable on dipstick) in other words, these things do not lose oil or shouldn't anyway I am sure if I wailed on the thing at a racetrack for 6000 miles the oil would be at half dipstick or lower, due to excessive pcv valve blowby normal driving, with occasional foot-to-floor passing moves on highway, I see no loss

10-24-2011, 02:55 PM	#15
Hershey Drives: 08 Yaris sedan auto / Fit auto Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: northeast Posts: 2,897	[QUOTE=yaris2010RS;611191]i really hate to give a reference to this thread but it could be the issue you are having. http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31470 i dont think any active members have found this issue on their yaris but its worth a shot to check out for urself Don't get me goin' on that matter again . Could be a possibility . The dipstick did read lower at that time . There's no oil seapage / leakage since the fix and now using synthetic 5w-20 . I check the gasket every week or so . Did so yesterday and all is well .

10-24-2011, 05:10 PM	#16
bentjazz Drives: 2009 Yaris--3dr MT Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Ohio Posts: 541	Oh man, I hope it's not the gasket. Always something to worry about. I do check the car on a flat surface. I hope this isn't something serious. Ugh. Thank you for all the great input, Yarisworlders.

10-24-2011, 05:40 PM	#17
bentjazz Drives: 2009 Yaris--3dr MT Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Ohio Posts: 541	Called Toyota and they said when I bring it in on Dec 13th for my oil change, they'll do some kind of test to see if there's a leak. I'll keep an eye on it until then....