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Old 06-09-2010, 03:25 PM   #1
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After 189CAD$ no more lawnmower Yaris

Ok so couple of weeks back I posted a thread about my Yaris sounding like a lawn mower. Some of you said it could be the timing chain sound, some said cracked manifold while others said aliens (). And while all these responses were valid to some extent (aliens ), I couldn't live with a lawnmower Yaris.

Therefore on Monday I dropped by the local Toyota dealer (Ile-Perrot Toyota, very good service) and asked the service manager if he could help me out. JM (dude's name) was very helpful and told me he's almost certain he knows what it is, a stupid exhaust manifold/pipe joint. He told me that the whole thing should take no more than an hour and cost before taxes 160-170$. So today I had my appointment and just like JM said it was the stupid joint , he showed me what happened to mine and how it should look like when new. Let me tell you, you'd be blind and you would notice the difference. I asked him why it degraded so much and he answered me with a question, "do you do a lot of idling?" to which I replied :"Not purposefully , just when I'm stuck in traffic...alot". And apparently this is what happens each time you creep up in traffic or do a lot of stop and go the engine moves around because of torque while the exhaust pipe stays still, therefore the little joint wears out more quickly.

Unfortunately the stupid joint is not covered under warranty since it falls under wear and tear components.

Here is a breakdown of the price with part numbers:

2X 90080-10291 ------ Bolts 13.20CAD$
2X 90501-A0031 ------ Springs 14.40CAD$
1X 17451-21070 ------ Joint 58.90CAD$
Total parts -------------------- 86.50CAD$

Labour --------------------------- 80.96CAD$

Total before taxes 167.46CAD$

Car has 87460km on the ODO and it only became apparent at around 85000km

The car drives like it has 10km on the ODO, has more pep now and most importantly it does not drive me nuts with the constant sputtering!YAY for stupid joints.
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Old 06-09-2010, 04:10 PM   #2
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Damn!! So that'd be what...52-53,000 miles??? Glad they got it figured out for you!! Good info!!!
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Old 06-09-2010, 04:48 PM   #3
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Do you have pics or can you explain more clearly exactly where the joint failed?
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Old 06-09-2010, 06:39 PM   #4
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that flexpipe is going to deterioate. Especially in areas where its rust prone due to road salt from the snow.

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Old 06-09-2010, 06:42 PM   #5
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that flexpipe is comming to deterioate. Especially in areas where its rust prone due to road sale from the snow.
its right in front of the flexpipe, just where the exhaust manifold meets the exhaust pipe. I. posting the pic ASAP , ill try to find the illustration in the manual
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Old 06-09-2010, 06:51 PM   #6
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here are the pics, the bolts with the springs come as a kit with the seal so they swap out everything. Not sure the exact function of the springs but I would suspect they are there to keep constant pressure on the seal as well as provide some level of mobility to the joint. YarisSedan I'm sure could explain better.

Hope this helps, I would check your joints also especially the older model Yarii
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Old 06-09-2010, 07:32 PM   #7
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that flexpipe is comming to deterioate. Especially in areas where its rust prone due to road sale from the snow.
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Old 06-09-2010, 07:46 PM   #8
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Wow rofl that shows how much im out of it right now.
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Old 06-09-2010, 09:21 PM   #9
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Bolts and springs are reusable (unless they are broken).
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Old 06-09-2010, 09:31 PM   #10
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Thats why i kept them, the joint is the only part that is trashed. But they install the part as akit
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Old 06-10-2010, 12:11 AM   #11
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Is this also called the donut? If so, I have to get mine replaced Friday morning. From what my mechanic described to me, it's exactly the same as the picture you posted of the circular part with the two springs.

Beforehand getting it fixed, did your yaris seem kind of wimpy in the power department? Especially in the low end?
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Old 06-10-2010, 12:15 AM   #12
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Is this also called the donut? If so, I have to get mine replaced Friday morning. From what my mechanic described to me, it's exactly the same as the picture you posted of the circular part with the two springs.

Beforehand getting it fixed, did your yaris seem kind of wimpy in the power department? Especially in the low end?
yeah kinda although not immediately its gotten worse in the last week or so , or it could be just my subconscious being more sensitive to it. It runs awesome right now , i forgot how much pep this car really had.
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Old 06-12-2010, 12:57 AM   #13
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I assume it is shown in the diagram on page 3 or 4 of the repair manual?

http://www.etimago.com/yaris/repairmanual/Exhaust.pdf
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Old 06-12-2010, 01:24 AM   #14
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wow, thanks for posting that, good thing to keep in mind for the future!

So, engine dampers/solid mounts can have a positive effect on that part's longevity, then :D
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Old 06-13-2010, 09:06 PM   #15
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i had the same problem in the past with my RIP Echo! the car sounded like a redneck tractor!
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Old 06-13-2010, 10:32 PM   #16
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Yeah, have you guy'n gals ever looked at the motor while it idles? The thing vibrates like crazy. It's no wonder the engine needs such soft motor mounts, and also why the TRD mount cause so much vibration.
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Old 06-14-2010, 11:40 AM   #17
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All inline four cylinder engines vibrate. It's inherently unbalanced. Letting it jiggle around a lot keeps that vibration from being transmitted to the body.
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Old 06-14-2010, 12:54 PM   #18
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My old CARBURETED '85 Honda idles as smooth as glass and I have a solid rear mount on it. My Echo idles like a detuned bag of dirt in comparison.
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