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05-24-2019, 01:28 PM | #1 |
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Carbotech 1521 vs Hawk Performance HB596F.690 for daily driver?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/173896601305
VS https://www.amazon.com/Hawk-Performa...ype=automotive I would be using brand new stock rotors. |
05-24-2019, 01:45 PM | #2 |
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I would go with the Hawk.
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05-24-2019, 01:49 PM | #3 |
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I haven't used the 1521's but I can vouch for carbotech's customer service as I use their xp10's and soon xp12's on the track.
I use hawk hps pads for dding and I'm not too impressed. They are fine but nothing special. I'd stick with carbotech imo
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05-25-2019, 08:33 PM | #4 |
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I haven't tried the hawks but did own a set of those carbos on my last yaris. I bought them because the original stock pads were too grabby and had poor modulation.
I love those pads and am thinking of swapping out the stock pads for a set on my current yaris. They work well cool temps and have a high max temp limit.Oh, and good modulation at all temps. Maybe the hawks will work better for your driving style. |
05-26-2019, 12:36 PM | #5 |
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I had the CarboTech on my first Yaris. Worked fine for a DD (mine was a non-ABS model). For my current Yaris, when the time comes, I might just stick with the R1 Concepts Geomet series rotor and pad kit.
Don't forget to flush out your brake fluid since you'll be in that area anyway. lol. |
05-27-2019, 04:52 AM | #6 |
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FWIW
I ran carbotechs on my track car and barely got 1 weekend out of them. Which is abosurd for the $180~ i paid for them. Called them up and they of course didnt take any of the blame for a crap product and said something was wrong with my car. I switched to Porterfields and finished the year off (3 more weekends) and still had life left in them and I liked the dynamics better.
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05-27-2019, 07:48 AM | #7 | |
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I have about 250km of track driving on my xp10 pads and they are probably around 50-60% left
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06-01-2019, 07:54 PM | #8 | |
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with that car I had a dedicated street pads with matched rotors, and then track pads with matched rotors. Basically when I have a track weekend coming up, Id usually swap the track stuff over a few days prior and bleed the brakes and then I make sure everything works on very spirited touge run (they did throw sparks which was kinda cool) then pack up and head to the track. With any NEW track pad, I go thru a multi evening, highway high speed (over 2wice the speed limit), multi-step bed in process. That car would do 120 on the main straight and throw the anchor out for a 45~ right hook. I NEEDED my brakes to work ;) the only reason I went with them as all my other track buddies with similar sized cars swore by them. Well I dunno. I used the same calipers as with the poterfields, got new discs to dedicate to them and never looked back. Treated them to the same exact bed in procedure. now days I dont have the same income vs cost of living delta as I used to. so I only do smaller track events or the occasional autoX
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06-03-2019, 12:37 PM | #9 | |
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Eventually I could smell the brake pads and I could feel the friction increase. Drove it back home using minimal brakes and parked it for the night before I went to the track the next day. The only issue I have had with the xp10's is a slight crumbling on the edges of the pad and what appears to be surface cracks. I emailed CT and they explained that I am likely exceeding the temps of the pads and to increase to xp12 which I will be trying once my 10's wear out. My local track is similar to your situation just slightly less speed it seems. It involves about 150km/h into a sharp 75 degree corner where I scrub down to about 100km/h within a short braking zone. There is another one of these right after and then a handful of slightly lower speed but really hard braking zones. It is a track that isn't easy on brakes typically. Thanks for your heads up, it's good to know
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06-03-2019, 09:39 PM | #10 |
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It very well could of been anomaly.
So with new track pads Ill usually do like 4-6 moderate stops from 60mph to like 10, then i do another set progressively harder...maybe take it up to around 70-80mph. Take it easy for a few miles then start the high speed stuff. 2-3 HARD stops from north of 100mph. Luckily not too far away from where I used to live is a divided expressway thats pretty quiet late at night with no cops so I can get away with this without noone near me. Street pads I do the same process minus the latter, triple digit stuff. The car was a turbo tercel that weighed 2080 with me in it on NT01 tires. It wasnt too fast, i ran similar times to midpack Spec Miatas on Summit Main and would easily hand gt86s their ass. Pretty much all I cared about haha
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