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Old 01-11-2010, 11:11 PM   #37
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They actually make tires that are made to pretty much be stretched and are used for negative camber. Alot of VW owners use them....
Actually these tire are tried and true stretchers. Some pros use them in D1GP so idk why anyone would feel unsafe using them on the street.

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Old 01-11-2010, 11:15 PM   #38
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Actually these tire are tried and true stretchers. Some pros use them in D1GP so idk why anyone would feel unsafe using them on the street.

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Old 01-12-2010, 03:39 PM   #39
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enough of the bickering... when are you getting your wheels? I want to see these bad boys on your car
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Old 01-12-2010, 05:15 PM   #40
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+1.

phxdemon, state your source for all the claims in post #28 -- then we can have a real, informed discussion on the matter.
How about you find one tire manufacturer that recommends putting a 205 tire on a 9 inch rim, and then we can have a discussion. Or Racerfreak can put up a link of a "pro drifter" using some ridiculous stretch. I'm not talking 5-10% out of specs, I'm talking a 205 on a 9 inch rim
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do some reading cuz it'll take me too long to find a pic of a pro drift car streched considering they are pics of them drifting.

http://www.drifting.com/forums/tech-...hind-them.html


I'm not gonna lie I'd rather put a 215 on a 9" but it could be a 195
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Old 01-12-2010, 07:40 PM   #42
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do some reading cuz it'll take me too long to find a pic of a pro drift car streched considering they are pics of them drifting.

http://www.drifting.com/forums/tech-...hind-them.html


I'm not gonna lie I'd rather put a 215 on a 9" but it could be a 195
Post 1 from your link:

Ive heard that hey give you better grip, but ive also heard that its more for show and a lot more stuff.

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but in all honesty, if i can stretch a 245 on a rim designed for a 275, id run the 275.


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Old 01-12-2010, 07:46 PM   #43
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Post 1 from your link:

Ive heard that hey give you better grip, but ive also heard that its more for show and a lot more stuff.

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but in all honesty, if i can stretch a 245 on a rim designed for a 275, id run the 275.


Thanks! Even wannabe drifters disagree with you.

I love subjective reading ... I'm not saying stretch is better but saying it serves a purpose and is not bad. I would never run a major stretch on car for grip but then again your not gonna fit a 245 on a 9" wide wheel on a yaris.
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Old 01-13-2010, 01:07 PM   #44
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I think stretched tires look pretty cool, I'm not gonna lie. However, if it were advantageous to stretch your tires for performance, don't you think most racecars (not just D1 drivers) would do it?

Stretching, from what I understood, came from the need to pass inspection in Germany/Belgium. The inspection required that the tire's tread be completely under/inline with the fender. This, of course, didn't allow for very wide wheels or low offsets. So, people started to stretch the tires—tread was still in the fender, but the sidewalls and whatnot poked out a bit.
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well small stretching actually eliminates side wall flex... that's about all it does for grip racing. It helps create a smoother drift but most people just get bigger wheels to cut down on side wall flex. I still give the op lots of credit for stretching the wheels on the little yaris.
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Old 01-13-2010, 03:24 PM   #46
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How about you find one tire manufacturer that recommends putting a 205 tire on a 9 inch rim, and then we can have a discussion.
Why wouldn't you call for phxdemon to state his source also, as I requested? He stated an opinion; I did not. I asked for information. Something wrong with that?

I'm sure Toyota doesn't recommend half the crap we do to our cars, but they in point of fact run better and/or make more power -- so what's your point about manufacturers?
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Old 01-13-2010, 08:52 PM   #47
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Why wouldn't you call for phxdemon to state his source also, as I requested? He stated an opinion; I did not. I asked for information. Something wrong with that?
Because 99.9% of people don't stretch their tires, and its widely accepted as bad for the tire, and the rest of the car.

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I'm sure Toyota doesn't recommend half the crap we do to our cars, but they in point of fact run better and/or make more power -- so what's your point about manufacturers?
It doesn't offer performance gains, find me an auto crosser running a ridiculous stretch and placing.
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Because 99.9% of people don't stretch their tires, and its widely accepted as bad for the tire, and the rest of the car.
gains, find me an auto crosser running a ridiculous stretch and placing.
Useless argument....99.9% of the population doesn't modify their car or even know what "tire stretching" is given this frame of context.


OBVIOUSLY....autcrossing is totally different than being on a track or on the street. It's night and day....
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Old 01-14-2010, 10:03 AM   #49
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i've come to the conclusion that arguing with boneheads who want to do what they want to do, regardless of other data out there, is a giant waste of time. therefore i'm leaving one last thought.







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Old 01-14-2010, 11:02 AM   #50
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I say let the man do whatever he wants to do. YOur style or not just let him do it.

And DerFlosser, it seems like all you do is get in arguments.
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Old 01-14-2010, 01:04 PM   #51
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how did autocrossing become the point, supmet? Irrelevant to a guy with a street car running stretched tires. Hey Walter and other stretched-tire-guys, how many flats or tires coming off the rims have you ever had? THAT is real data, which is all I keep asking for.
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