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Yaris Hilton · 11-20-2009, 01:56 PM

All that I've seen since 2006 is 10% ethanol. That's the norm across the U.S.

mr9865 · 11-20-2009, 03:16 PM

there are a few stations around me that advertise no ethanol, I try to fill up at those places.

2+2 · 11-20-2009, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Yaris Hilton

Airplanes have in-flight refueling. Why can't we pull up next to a fuel truck rolling down the highway, swing a probe over and top up at 70 MPH?

Figure out a slick way to do that for electric cars and you can buy yourself a nice little island to live on.

Yaris Hilton · 11-20-2009, 04:52 PM

I know a way you could do that wirelessly, but you'd probably have to have a nuclear reactor on the truck to make it work.

2+2 · 11-20-2009, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Yaris Hilton

I know a way you could do that wirelessly, but you'd probably have to have a nuclear reactor on the truck to make it work.

How about doing it like electric trains but different? Since trains ride a track they can use overhead wires but cars wander so how about curb feelers? You're cruising down the eway and see your electric gauge is low so you hit the right lane and let the curb feelers engage the wires alongside the road. Swerving to avoid the occasional electrified roadkill might just become an everyday fact of life.

Electric cars with infinite range though - that would be cool.

CtrlAltDefeat · 11-20-2009, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 2+2

How about doing it like electric trains but different? Since trains ride a track they can use overhead wires but cars wander so how about curb feelers? You're cruising down the eway and see your electric gauge is low so you hit the right lane and let the curb feelers engage the wires alongside the road. Swerving to avoid the occasional electrified roadkill might just become an everyday fact of life.

Electric cars with infinite range though - that would be cool.

Actually, inductive coils embedded in the road would avoid needing the curb feelers or the chicken fried road kill. They just wouldn't be that efficient, and installing them would be really expensive. My dream would be nuclear battery equipped cars that would only need refueled once every 3-5 years, but some how avoid that whole "nuclear waste, radioactive spill when the car wrecks, freely available nuclear material" issue lol

fmicle · 11-20-2009, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Yaris Hilton

Airplanes have in-flight refueling. Why can't we pull up next to a fuel truck rolling down the highway, swing a probe over and top up at 70 MPH?

OMG, that would be so awesome!!!

fmicle · 11-20-2009, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by sdyaris

Living in the midwest, alot of our gas has ethanol in it. I tried an expirement and ran a few tank through that had no ethanol blend at all. My gas mileage average went from around 32 mpg in town to 36 mpg in town. Something to think about.

Yeah, I think ethanol does more harm than good. I believe a basic principle should be "don't put your food in your tank"???!!!

fmicle · 11-20-2009, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by CtrlAltDefeat

Actually, inductive coils embedded in the road would avoid needing the curb feelers or the chicken fried road kill. They just wouldn't be that efficient, and installing them would be really expensive. My dream would be nuclear battery equipped cars that would only need refueled once every 3-5 years, but some how avoid that whole "nuclear waste, radioactive spill when the car wrecks, freely available nuclear material" issue lol

How about a "simple" fuel cell?

CtrlAltDefeat · 11-21-2009, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by fmicle

How about a "simple" fuel cell?

You mean a hydrogen fuel cell? I wish hydrogen was the answer, but there are so many issues with hydrogen (low energy/volume ratio, nearly impossible to keep contained without it seeping out, etc) Ultimately the real answer is efficiency. Super efficient solar cells, motors, and energy storage are the key. Most solar cells are only 5% efficient. Get cheap and efficient solar cells and energy storage and watch how quickly fossil fuels disappear...

fmicle · 11-21-2009, 01:13 AM

Nah, not necessarily hydrogen, there are other technologies that are more efficient: direct carbon, alkaline, etc. Imagine a battery (fuel cell) so good you could power your house too. You drive back hom from work, park in the garage and plug the house into the car

Now, wouldn't that be cool?

TLyttle · 11-21-2009, 01:24 AM

What is it about keeping rolling that has you guys so inspired?? I stop, deal with my requirements, the car's requirements, walk around a bit, and start out again refreshed. Amazingly, I get to my destination just as quickly as anyone else, and more alert to boot.

CtrlAltDefeat · 11-21-2009, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by TLyttle

What is it about keeping rolling that has you guys so inspired?? I stop, deal with my requirements, the car's requirements, walk around a bit, and start out again refreshed. Amazingly, I get to my destination just as quickly as anyone else, and more alert to boot.

lol just a little thought experiment is all

Yaris Hilton · 11-21-2009, 08:57 AM

Yep. No astronaut diapers for me.

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