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Hershey · 01-18-2013, 10:30 AM

Nearest non ethanol gas is 50+ miles away and is only available in 91 octane .

STC · 01-22-2013, 12:22 PM

There is no non-ethanol gas stations in all of Central PA since early 2011

I have to really work hard now to get the great gas MPG I was getting with non-ethanol gas.

Very confused with Pure-gas.org?

State of PA legislation signed by previous Governor Ed Rendell for gas companies (branded and unbranded) to follow the EPA ethanol mandates. Ed Rendell then created Pennsylvania Mandates: The Use Of Biodiesel And Cellulosic Ethanol - HB1202 in 2007. Philly and other eastern city (Allentown, Scranton, etc) area had to comply fully by a certain time back in 2009. This was the same case for Pittsburgh and western areas. Service stations and distribution channels in Central PA who are offering non-ethanol had to change blend by September 2010. No gasoline is being produced in PA. If you are a PA resident here are the facts and links: http://www.paenvironmentdigest.com/n...ArticleID=8276
http://www.paenvironmentdigest.com/n...803&SubjectID=

At least we have someone that worked for us in 2011:
http://www.searchenterprises.com/int.../story1978.htm

I am suspect of pure-gas.org. I'm not saying pure-gas.org is totally unreliable. I'm sure you may find non-ethanol gas in your state, but not in PA. If you think you are getting non-ethanol gas in PA you are not. Maybe at your local airport

Do your research for your state laws and regulations. It may not be the case what pure-gas.org is stating.

Cheers!

BrisbaneYaris · 03-20-2013, 08:22 PM

Interesting!

I'm In Australia where you might be aware is currently pushing HARD on lowering emissions. For example Toyota Australia pushed HARD to get the Australian government to introduce E10 (91 Octane Unleaded Fuel with 10% Ethanol) to replace regular 91 Octane Unleaded Fuel, it is cheaper but you definitely notice the minimum 3% reduction in fuel economy.

Fuel is about $1.40/Litre for E10 and about $1.50/Litre for 91 (non ethanol) atm.

I use the E10 because in a few years Reg 91 Octane will not be available in Australia and if Toyota thinks it's good enough for their Made IN Japan Engines then I presume they have modified their engines to deal with the increased volatility of the ethanol blends which btw Ethanol has been in Australian fuel for a very long time just not in concentrations as high as 10%.

I've so far done 13,000kms in my Yaris in only 4 months since buying it new and found that it's taken till NOW and many many 950km coast to coast highway trips to get the fuel economy to it's current 7.6litres/100kms fuel usage.

I tried Shells V Power 98 Octane 4X Full tanks in a row with NO difference in fuel economy or power (not even 0.1 of a litre difference in economy) as I did with BPs Ultimate 98 Octane with at least 4X Full tanks again without noticing any difference in Engine power or fuel economy.

My personal opinion is that the Australian delivered Yaris which are ALL Made In Japan ( realise that the Yaris is made in many different countries to slightly different specifications world wide) (the same specs as the Japanese Vitz except for obvious suspension, steering, colour, fabric & equipment changes to make them appropriate for Australian Tastes) run more than fine on E10 (91 Octane Unleaded with 10% Ethanol) and should be just as durable as with previous engines running on non ethanol fuels.

01-22-2013, 12:22 PM	#20
STC "LibertyRides!" View User's Garage Drives: 2010 Yaris 3Dr LB \| 2020 Stang Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: State College, PA, USA Posts: 576	There is no non-ethanol gas stations in all of Central PA since early 2011 I have to really work hard now to get the great gas MPG I was getting with non-ethanol gas. Very confused with Pure-gas.org? State of PA legislation signed by previous Governor Ed Rendell for gas companies (branded and unbranded) to follow the EPA ethanol mandates. Ed Rendell then created Pennsylvania Mandates: The Use Of Biodiesel And Cellulosic Ethanol - HB1202 in 2007. Philly and other eastern city (Allentown, Scranton, etc) area had to comply fully by a certain time back in 2009. This was the same case for Pittsburgh and western areas. Service stations and distribution channels in Central PA who are offering non-ethanol had to change blend by September 2010. No gasoline is being produced in PA. If you are a PA resident here are the facts and links: http://www.paenvironmentdigest.com/n...ArticleID=8276 http://www.paenvironmentdigest.com/n...803&SubjectID= At least we have someone that worked for us in 2011: http://www.searchenterprises.com/int.../story1978.htm I am suspect of pure-gas.org. I'm not saying pure-gas.org is totally unreliable. I'm sure you may find non-ethanol gas in your state, but not in PA. If you think you are getting non-ethanol gas in PA you are not. Maybe at your local airport Do your research for your state laws and regulations. It may not be the case what pure-gas.org is stating. Cheers! __________________ ~ Mark ~ 2010 Yaris 3-Dr Liftback, 5-Speed Manual, P185/60R 15, Bayou Blue Pearl I Love my YARIS - (Click below to see Gaslog): Most miles Tank: 538 tank/10.148 gal = 53.015 MPG / Most MPG: 54.95 MPG (ethanol) 425 tank/7.73 gal "The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people." -- Frank Kent

01-18-2013, 10:30 AM	#19
Hershey Drives: 08 Yaris sedan auto / Fit auto Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: northeast Posts: 2,897	Nearest non ethanol gas is 50+ miles away and is only available in 91 octane .

03-20-2013, 08:22 PM	#21
BrisbaneYaris Yarisaliscious Drives: 2012 Yaris YRX Hatch 1.5 Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Brisbane, Queensland, Australia Posts: 3	Interesting! I'm In Australia where you might be aware is currently pushing HARD on lowering emissions. For example Toyota Australia pushed HARD to get the Australian government to introduce E10 (91 Octane Unleaded Fuel with 10% Ethanol) to replace regular 91 Octane Unleaded Fuel, it is cheaper but you definitely notice the minimum 3% reduction in fuel economy. Fuel is about $1.40/Litre for E10 and about $1.50/Litre for 91 (non ethanol) atm. I use the E10 because in a few years Reg 91 Octane will not be available in Australia and if Toyota thinks it's good enough for their Made IN Japan Engines then I presume they have modified their engines to deal with the increased volatility of the ethanol blends which btw Ethanol has been in Australian fuel for a very long time just not in concentrations as high as 10%. I've so far done 13,000kms in my Yaris in only 4 months since buying it new and found that it's taken till NOW and many many 950km coast to coast highway trips to get the fuel economy to it's current 7.6litres/100kms fuel usage. I tried Shells V Power 98 Octane 4X Full tanks in a row with NO difference in fuel economy or power (not even 0.1 of a litre difference in economy) as I did with BPs Ultimate 98 Octane with at least 4X Full tanks again without noticing any difference in Engine power or fuel economy. My personal opinion is that the Australian delivered Yaris which are ALL Made In Japan ( realise that the Yaris is made in many different countries to slightly different specifications world wide) (the same specs as the Japanese Vitz except for obvious suspension, steering, colour, fabric & equipment changes to make them appropriate for Australian Tastes) run more than fine on E10 (91 Octane Unleaded with 10% Ethanol) and should be just as durable as with previous engines running on non ethanol fuels.