18 'techniques' Cleammpg.com member used to get 9 straight 50 MPG+ tanks in a Yaris

[nookandcrannycar]

I was performing some searches, trying to determine the 'absolute maximum' fuel capacity (for certain) on a 3rd Gen Yaris (like CTScott did for the 2nd Gen Yaris). This URL came up as one of the hits. I found 'technique' #13 and 'technique' #18 particularly funny. I wonder if this person is a Yarisworld member ?

http://www.cleanmpg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15945

P.S. - Oops. To mods: After posting this I realized you might think a better location would be in the Fuel Economy forum.

[mirapatec]

Interesting. Though, if you reside in the Southern USA, #13 could be an issue. #18 is always going to be a hoot since you can never overestimate the intelligence of the driver next to you.

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by mirapatec

Interesting. Though, if you reside in the Southern USA, #13 could be an issue. #18 is always going to be a hoot since you can never overestimate the intelligence of the driver next to you.

Re #13, I find it funny that he would take it to the extreme to change his clothes at work, and to change into shorts (I imagine) to mitigate sweating (my understanding is that A/C makes a 1 MPG difference). I'm thrifty, but I'm not going to keep the A/C off here (nor anywhere else with a similar climate) when A/C will help re comfort.

Re #18, I can't really explain it. I find post #18 funny for the same reason I find Why? 's posts funny. They seem to have similar senses of humor.

[malibuguy]

I have like 20 tanks over 50...I guess its easier in a sedan...little bit better aero

[fnkngrv]

The aerodynamics of the sedan are much better with the sedan. The rear end design of the LB doesn't lead to anything but turbulence.

sent from my m-o-b-i-l-e

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by malibuguy

I have like 20 tanks over 50...I guess its easier in a sedan...little bit better aero

Wow!

IIRC, the cleanmpg.com poster also has a sedan. That particular post stated that he had 9 tanks in a row over 50 MPG. I didn't look at any of his other posts to see if he had any more tanks over 50 MPG. I think I've had 3 or 4 tanks over 48 MPG, but zero tanks over 50 MPG.

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by fnkngrv

The aerodynamics of the sedan are much better with the sedan. The rear end design of the LB doesn't lead to anything but turbulence.

sent from my m-o-b-i-l-e

There is a Liftback owning YW member (IIRC, in State College, PA) whose overall average is at 50 MPG (or close to it). However, IIRC, he uses quite a few hypermiling techniques (blocked radiator, and others) discussed on hypermiling sites.

[fnkngrv]

Just read the list. All of it it palatable with exception to #11. It is actually illegal in a lot of places to shut off your vehicle at red lights. Dangerous and stupid in my book, but hey, no reason it could piss other drivers off either right?

sent from my m-o-b-i-l-e

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by fnkngrv

Just read the list. All of it it palatable with exception to #11. It is actually illegal in a lot of places to shut off your vehicle at red lights. Dangerous and stupid in my book, but hey, no reason it could piss other drivers off either right?

sent from my m-o-b-i-l-e

I also don't know why he picked 10 seconds. My information might be wrong, but I've heard from multiple sources that (on average) the engine needs to be off for over 30 seconds to overcome the cost ($ wise) of restarting the car.

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by fnkngrv

Just read the list. All of it it palatable with exception to #11. It is actually illegal in a lot of places to shut off your vehicle at red lights. Dangerous and stupid in my book, but hey, no reason it could piss other drivers off either right?

sent from my m-o-b-i-l-e

I also don't know why he picked 10 seconds. My information might be wrong, but I've heard from multiple sources that (on average) the engine needs to be off for over 30 seconds to overcome the cost ($ wise) of restarting the car.

I shouldn't have used the word 'particularly' in the OP, as it implied that I found all of the suggestions funny or possibly not valid (I didn't). I just found the presentations humorous re #13 and #18.

[why?]

Originally Posted by nookandcrannycar

There is a Liftback owning YW member (IIRC, in State College, PA) whose overall average is at 50 MPG (or close to it). However, IIRC, he uses quite a few hypermiling techniques (blocked radiator, and others) discussed on hypermiling sites.

More importantly, he drives about 45 mph on roads that are completely deserted.

Originally Posted by nookandcrannycar

Re #13, I find it funny that he would take it to the extreme to change his clothes at work, and to change into shorts (I imagine) to mitigate sweating (my understanding is that A/C makes a 1 MPG difference). I'm thrifty, but I'm not going to keep the A/C off here (nor anywhere else with a similar climate) when A/C will help re comfort.

Re #18, I can't really explain it. I find post #18 funny for the same reason I find Why? 's posts funny. They seem to have similar senses of humor.

Because it is so far from what a normal person would ever think of doing. It takes thinking "out of the box," to ,"eating the box, regurgitating it, and making that mess into an octagon." Just so totally different from what anyone else would think.

But sedans do have better aerodynamics, however the length of the drives and whether highway mileage or not is probably what is making the bigger difference. My best highway mileage is 47, while I am around 40 driving with no sustained freeway type driving.

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by why?

Because it is so far from what a normal person would ever think of doing. It takes thinking "out of the box," to ,"eating the box, regurgitating it, and making that mess into an octagon." Just so totally different from what anyone else would think.

Yeah, but I also think it is that you never hesitate to point out stupidity and to point out the absurd.....and observations of such are made even more humorous by injecting a little undercurrent of enough anger just to make the point a bit more emphatically. I appreciate that in #18 on that list, and in some of your posts .

But sedans do have better aerodynamics, however the length of the drives and whether highway mileage or not is probably what is making the bigger difference. My best highway mileage is 47, while I am around 40 driving with no sustained freeway type driving.

[bronsin]

My tip is distill the E10 out of the gas!

[why?]

Originally Posted by nookandcrannycar

Yeah, but I also think it is that you never hesitate to point out stupidity and to point out the absurd.....and observations of such are made even more humorous by injecting a little undercurrent of enough anger just to make the point a bit more emphatically. I appreciate that in #18 on that list, and in some of your posts .

now that is true, and well said.

Originally Posted by bronsin

My tip is distill the E10 out of the gas!

if only that was possible.

[mirapatec]

Well, if you can find the E-0 (non-ethanol) "marine" gasoline, that might help a little. I know I can get 2 to 3 MPG more out of a tank with this fuel.