When to shift - Toyota Yaris Forums

vaironl · 07-16-2013, 12:13 AM

Hello Everone,

I'm bringing up a topic already discussed in this post, http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5979.
It says to never let the RPMs rise over 2k or 2.2 for merging. As some of you know I'm new to yaris and I'm new to the manual world. So my shifting is really crappy,and not smooth. I usually shift at 2.5k because I kind of let the RPMs drop trying to find the catch point between shifts. Should I try the 2k shifting?

Altitude · 07-16-2013, 12:19 AM

If you want to save fuel, sure. If you want to get where you're going, shift based on the current driving conditions, terrain and when you feel like it.

BEEF · 07-16-2013, 09:03 AM

I used to shift at 2k for the fuel savings but it tends to put you around 1200rpms at the next gear. that is alright as long as you don't have to accelerate quickly.

The yaris also reacts well to shifting around 5500rpms and it is a lot more fun...

ilikerice · 07-16-2013, 11:25 AM

i shift at 4000 all day everyday...

1.5 · 07-16-2013, 11:52 AM

when the needle starts bouncing off the redline

Fuel cutoff shifts FTW

fnkngrv · 07-16-2013, 12:27 PM

When I was in ECO driving mentality I would do the whole shifting around 2k-2200, but really I find the best spot for smooth shifting being at the following which you might want to try until you are more comfortable:

4k, 5k, 5800

shifting I have noticed between 2500-4k seems to be more blunt.

DISCLAIMER: I am not responsible for any information I have provided. I am just relying on my 6 year experience with the C50.

harda toenail · 07-16-2013, 02:21 PM

Just keep driving and do what feels right for you. You will get the feel for when to shift depending on power needs and the situation. Everyone drives a manual differently. There isn't really a set way you need to shift. Enjoy the drive!!!

BEEF · 07-16-2013, 03:45 PM

Back in the day, there used to be a little light (arrow pointing up) to tell you when to shift. I found out quickly that if you floor it, the light goes off...

cali yaris · 07-17-2013, 12:20 AM

I don't think shifting at 2000 rpm gives the best mileage, and it usually bogs the motor if you're trying to accelerate. At least 3000 rpm will make the car a lot happier.

Kaotic Lazagna · 07-17-2013, 12:41 AM

I used to shift at 2k rpm when ever I was able to creep up in speed. But since getting heavier wheels, I'm now shifting between 2.5k and 3k.

nookandcrannycar · 07-17-2013, 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harda toenail

do what feels right for you.

Quote:

depending on power needs and the situation.

My Yaris doesn't have a tach. I pretty much follow this ^^^^^.

CrankyOldMan · 07-17-2013, 01:06 PM

I've made some spreadsheets and charts to figure out speed vs rpm (before I had a tach). Here's a post that has the stock gears vs their redline shift speeds: http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/sho...53&postcount=9

Flipper_1938 · 07-17-2013, 04:40 PM

New manual transmission corvettes lock out gears 2 and 3 when in eco mode. This forces you to go from first to fourth.

Some GM engineer thinks it is best to do most of your acceleration in first and then maintain speed with the higher gears.

FYI...after the fourth gear shift has been done, you are allowed to downshift to second or third.

cali yaris · 07-17-2013, 06:37 PM

^ That's the goofiest thing ever. Who would want to hypermile a Corvette?

Flipper_1938 · 07-17-2013, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cali yaris

^ That's the goofiest thing ever. Who would want to hypermile a Corvette?

Somebody that builds corvettes. .....That doesn't want to get hit with gas guzzler taxes.... that doesn't want to take a big hit on their CAFE average....GM.

jpmck03 · 07-17-2013, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by cali yaris

I don't think shifting at 2000 rpm gives the best mileage, and it usually bogs the motor if you're trying to accelerate. At least 3000 rpm will make the car a lot happier.

100% true for me at least... tried doing the 2000rpm-for-"best"-economy and didn't get the world's best results... but at around 3000-3200rpm I'm good to go!

Fuelly lists my last 10 fill-up average at 39.7mpg, and that's with consistent 3k shifts!
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Kaotic Lazagna · 07-18-2013, 12:09 AM

Yup, each car is different. When I drove BailOut's LB, he told me to drive 55 mph in it since that's where he got the best mpg. Then I applied it to my car for almost a year, and got fed up with the not so great mpg I was getting. So I started experimenting and found that going 60-75 mph (just keeping the throttle at 24%) produced the best mpg for my car. hahaha. Last tank for me was 39.4 mpg with mostly city driving and I kid you not, 95% of all stop lights I encountered turning red on me last second. Also, with having to rotate 43.5 lbs in each corner. HAHA

nookandcrannycar · 07-18-2013, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by CrankyOldMan

I've made some spreadsheets and charts to figure out speed vs rpm (before I had a tach). Here's a post that has the stock gears vs their redline shift speeds: http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/sho...53&postcount=9

Thanks. Interesting info.

07-16-2013, 12:13 AM	#1
vaironl Drives: 2010 Yaris 3 door, manual tran Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: -- Posts: 207	When to shift Hello Everone, I'm bringing up a topic already discussed in this post, http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5979. It says to never let the RPMs rise over 2k or 2.2 for merging. As some of you know I'm new to yaris and I'm new to the manual world. So my shifting is really crappy,and not smooth. I usually shift at 2.5k because I kind of let the RPMs drop trying to find the catch point between shifts. Should I try the 2k shifting?

07-16-2013, 09:03 AM	#3
BEEF View User's Garage Drives: 2008 yaris 3d Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: north carolina Posts: 732	I used to shift at 2k for the fuel savings but it tends to put you around 1200rpms at the next gear. that is alright as long as you don't have to accelerate quickly. The yaris also reacts well to shifting around 5500rpms and it is a lot more fun... __________________ Be the change you wish to see in the world -Mahatma Gandhi-

07-16-2013, 11:25 AM	#4
ilikerice Drives: 2010 black yaris Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: savannah, ga Posts: 2,868	i shift at 4000 all day everyday... __________________ -Derrick- "Racing is important to men who do it well. When you're racing... It's life. Anything that happens before or after, is just waiting."

07-16-2013, 11:52 AM	#5
1.5 Form>Function Drives: 07 Flint Sedan Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,018	when the needle starts bouncing off the redline Fuel cutoff shifts FTW __________________ Instagram: @southernstreets_phil Facebook.com/southernstreetsempire

07-16-2013, 12:27 PM	#6
fnkngrv Mr. 155 and climbing View User's Garage Drives: Seriously Modded 07 Sedan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: In The Hotbox Posts: 4,742	When I was in ECO driving mentality I would do the whole shifting around 2k-2200, but really I find the best spot for smooth shifting being at the following which you might want to try until you are more comfortable: 4k, 5k, 5800 shifting I have noticed between 2500-4k seems to be more blunt. DISCLAIMER: I am not responsible for any information I have provided. I am just relying on my 6 year experience with the C50. __________________ Team Tiamat Racing on Facebook Youtube Channel: Team Tiamat Racing *Class record holder in Land Speed @ 154.5mph for 1.5 mile and 145.5mph in the mile in the F (2.016 to 3.014 L), G (1.524 to 2.015 L), and H (1.016 to 1.523 L) classes.*

07-16-2013, 12:19 AM	#2
Altitude Drives: '08 LB MT Bayou Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,671	If you want to save fuel, sure. If you want to get where you're going, shift based on the current driving conditions, terrain and when you feel like it.

07-16-2013, 02:21 PM	#7
harda toenail Drives: Want a yaris Join Date: May 2012 Location: SE Missouri Posts: 132	Just keep driving and do what feels right for you. You will get the feel for when to shift depending on power needs and the situation. Everyone drives a manual differently. There isn't really a set way you need to shift. Enjoy the drive!!!

07-16-2013, 03:45 PM	#8
BEEF View User's Garage Drives: 2008 yaris 3d Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: north carolina Posts: 732	Back in the day, there used to be a little light (arrow pointing up) to tell you when to shift. I found out quickly that if you floor it, the light goes off... __________________ Be the change you wish to see in the world -Mahatma Gandhi-

07-17-2013, 12:20 AM	#9
cali yaris ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Turbo Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canoga Park, CA Posts: 14,859	I don't think shifting at 2000 rpm gives the best mileage, and it usually bogs the motor if you're trying to accelerate. At least 3000 rpm will make the car a lot happier. __________________ Micro Image forums, online store and shop are now closed. It was a great eight year run, but it was time to focus on other things. I'm still selling parts on eBay under micro*image seller ID and customers can still make requests for anything specific.

07-17-2013, 12:41 AM	#10
Kaotic Lazagna View User's Garage Drives: '14 GT86, '08 Vitz Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Central Valley, CA Posts: 9,873	I used to shift at 2k rpm when ever I was able to creep up in speed. But since getting heavier wheels, I'm now shifting between 2.5k and 3k.

07-17-2013, 01:06 PM	#12
CrankyOldMan 2ZR swap. DO IT! Ask how! View User's Garage Drives: 09 Meteoric Metallic HB Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: West Michigan Posts: 2,333	I've made some spreadsheets and charts to figure out speed vs rpm (before I had a tach). Here's a post that has the stock gears vs their redline shift speeds: http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/sho...53&postcount=9

07-17-2013, 04:40 PM	#13
Flipper_1938 Drives: 2010 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Kentucky Posts: 529	New manual transmission corvettes lock out gears 2 and 3 when in eco mode. This forces you to go from first to fourth. Some GM engineer thinks it is best to do most of your acceleration in first and then maintain speed with the higher gears. FYI...after the fourth gear shift has been done, you are allowed to downshift to second or third.

07-17-2013, 06:37 PM	#14
cali yaris ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Turbo Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canoga Park, CA Posts: 14,859	^ That's the goofiest thing ever. Who would want to hypermile a Corvette? __________________ Micro Image forums, online store and shop are now closed. It was a great eight year run, but it was time to focus on other things. I'm still selling parts on eBay under micro*image seller ID and customers can still make requests for anything specific.

07-18-2013, 12:09 AM	#17
Kaotic Lazagna View User's Garage Drives: '14 GT86, '08 Vitz Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Central Valley, CA Posts: 9,873	Yup, each car is different. When I drove BailOut's LB, he told me to drive 55 mph in it since that's where he got the best mpg. Then I applied it to my car for almost a year, and got fed up with the not so great mpg I was getting. So I started experimenting and found that going 60-75 mph (just keeping the throttle at 24%) produced the best mpg for my car. hahaha. Last tank for me was 39.4 mpg with mostly city driving and I kid you not, 95% of all stop lights I encountered turning red on me last second. Also, with having to rotate 43.5 lbs in each corner. HAHA

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