Address rubbing with DF210s - Toyota Yaris Forums

Yarflana · 03-14-2013, 02:23 PM

Ok. Installed DF210s and have some minor rubbing on the front.

Wheel/tire combo is 16x7; 205/50/16. I don't know the offset, but the tires are right at the edge of the fender well, not inside, not outside.

The rear is ok and has minor rubbing only with major dips and I have set my Tokico reds to 2+ full hard to handle that.

The front is another story with what's inside the fender well.

I have heard of folks tearing out some part of their fender wells to help with rubbing issues, but I don't know exactly what they are tearing out.

Any advice is welcomed.
Pat

Yarflana · 03-14-2013, 03:25 PM

Ok read about fender rolling...I think the baseball bat or other similar method would be helpful, if I need to go that far.

For now, I think I just need to make sure everything is tidy in the wheel wells. I saw today that the driver side fender liner was bowed out over the tire and it was rubbing at every bump in the road! I pushed it in some and that helped. I will take a rubber mallet to that tonight. The other side is good and tidy.

The front is where I will need to get smart.

WeeYari · 03-14-2013, 03:33 PM

195/50/16 rubber if you want to avoid bastardizing your car.

Yarflana · 03-14-2013, 03:35 PM

Not changing the rubber. If I cannot make it all work eventually, I will put the Eibachs back on.

Yarflana · 03-14-2013, 03:37 PM

I get the sense that guys who are concerned about fender rub are trying to run with a softer ride.

If I don't care about a softer ride, then I can go with less clearance because I can set my shocks (I have Tokico reds) at a lower dampening/stiffer ride and not be concerned with a lot of clearance...right?

This is likely my route on the front anyways. The back has more fender clearance.

Kaotic Lazagna · 03-15-2013, 01:51 AM

The offset should be stamped on the back of the rims, most likely either on the hub or on one of the spokes. It'll say "ET__." Replied to your PM too. ;)

mazilla · 03-15-2013, 03:34 AM

If you drive it long enough it will likely wear itself in the right places. The tires are stronger than the liner.

47_MasoN_47 · 03-15-2013, 10:29 AM

I run the same size wheels/tires. That's the main reason I've been leery to lower any more. When I turn left at full lock I scrub in the front. I used the baseball bat method to roll my rear fenders to get rid of that scrub when you hit a large bump.

atxsteve1 · 03-15-2013, 08:50 PM

i dont get how you are rubbing my car is lower than yours. I was running 18x7.5 and 215/35 with 2 inch drop springs before.

cali yaris · 03-16-2013, 04:17 AM

Do you know exactly where it's rubbing?
Is it on the liner,or on the metal fender?

3 ways to fix rubbing in front:
1. Use a razor to trim just the bit of plastic liner that is rubbing. (put blue tape on the liner and drive around to find out exactly where that is).
2. Add some negative camber to your front alignment (-1 degree improves handling and can help with rubbing)
3. Roll the fenders. Have it done professionally, it's cheap and won't hurt your paint. A baseball bat will.

mazilla · 03-16-2013, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cali yaris

Do you know exactly where it's rubbing?
Is it on the liner,or on the metal fender?

3 ways to fix rubbing in front:
1. Use a razor to trim just the bit of plastic liner that is rubbing. (put blue tape on the liner and drive around to find out exactly where that is).
2. Add some negative camber to your front alignment (-1 degree improves handling and can help with rubbing)
3. Roll the fenders. Have it done professionally, it's cheap and won't hurt your paint. A baseball bat will.

Speaking of #3...

I went to have my fenders rolled yesterday and the eastwood roller wouldn't adjust short enough to roll em...sucks arse.

3cyltrbo · 03-17-2013, 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeeYari

195/50/16 rubber if you want to avoid bastardizing your car.

+1

marlondog · 03-18-2013, 12:03 PM

Get some camber bolts from micro image. Tell them that Marlondog sent you.

47_MasoN_47 · 03-29-2013, 11:23 AM

Will camber help scrubbing the metal part that is kindof behind the wheel? When I turn to the left at full lock I scrub that thing pretty hard. I've knocked a fair bit of the paint off so I know exactly where it's rubbing, haha. The steel looks fairly thick there so I don't know if it would be safe to just dremel a notch out or not.

1.5 · 03-29-2013, 12:03 PM

I am not seeing what youre trying to describe. Any pics?

Negative camber would tilt the wheels in so if you are rubbing on the inside, camber may make it worse

tooter · 03-29-2013, 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeeYari

195/50/16 rubber if you want to avoid bastardizing your car.

I agree. My wheels have a deep outer rim so I chose 195/60/15's to completely avoid any rubbing issues. 60 series tires also offer higher treadwear numbers and will last longer.

47_MasoN_47 · 03-29-2013, 12:13 PM

1.5 · 03-29-2013, 12:14 PM

With how low that is compared to the wheel, negative camber should help tilt the wheel enough to space away from that portion. spacers would help too

03-14-2013, 02:23 PM	#1
Yarflana View User's Garage Drives: 2008 Base Model Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: TX Posts: 255	Address rubbing with DF210s Ok. Installed DF210s and have some minor rubbing on the front. Wheel/tire combo is 16x7; 205/50/16. I don't know the offset, but the tires are right at the edge of the fender well, not inside, not outside. The rear is ok and has minor rubbing only with major dips and I have set my Tokico reds to 2+ full hard to handle that. The front is another story with what's inside the fender well. I have heard of folks tearing out some part of their fender wells to help with rubbing issues, but I don't know exactly what they are tearing out. Any advice is welcomed. Pat

03-15-2013, 03:34 AM	#7
mazilla advocatus diaboli Drives: 07 Yaris hatch Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: San Jacinto California Posts: 1,126	If you drive it long enough it will likely wear itself in the right places. The tires are stronger than the liner. __________________ -Type 07 FFL- My odometer 03/11 http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...a/2843ed85.jpg

03-15-2013, 10:29 AM	#8
47_MasoN_47 What I thought I'd do was View User's Garage Drives: 09 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Northwest Alabama Posts: 1,140	I run the same size wheels/tires. That's the main reason I've been leery to lower any more. When I turn left at full lock I scrub in the front. I used the baseball bat method to roll my rear fenders to get rid of that scrub when you hit a large bump. __________________ My Nissan Hardbody (D21) 4x4 build log Check out my YouTube channel (mostly shooting) - http://www.youtube.com/user/47MasoN47

03-15-2013, 08:50 PM	#9
atxsteve1 View User's Garage Drives: THE RED HATCHY Join Date: May 2012 Location: Houston,TX Posts: 44	i dont get how you are rubbing my car is lower than yours. I was running 18x7.5 and 215/35 with 2 inch drop springs before. Last edited by atxsteve1; 03-15-2013 at 09:21 PM.

03-16-2013, 04:17 AM	#10
cali yaris ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Turbo Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canoga Park, CA Posts: 14,859	Do you know exactly where it's rubbing? Is it on the liner,or on the metal fender? 3 ways to fix rubbing in front: 1. Use a razor to trim just the bit of plastic liner that is rubbing. (put blue tape on the liner and drive around to find out exactly where that is). 2. Add some negative camber to your front alignment (-1 degree improves handling and can help with rubbing) 3. Roll the fenders. Have it done professionally, it's cheap and won't hurt your paint. A baseball bat will. __________________ Micro Image forums, online store and shop are now closed. It was a great eight year run, but it was time to focus on other things. I'm still selling parts on eBay under micro*image seller ID and customers can still make requests for anything specific.

03-14-2013, 03:25 PM	#2
Yarflana View User's Garage Drives: 2008 Base Model Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: TX Posts: 255	Ok read about fender rolling...I think the baseball bat or other similar method would be helpful, if I need to go that far. For now, I think I just need to make sure everything is tidy in the wheel wells. I saw today that the driver side fender liner was bowed out over the tire and it was rubbing at every bump in the road! I pushed it in some and that helped. I will take a rubber mallet to that tonight. The other side is good and tidy. The front is where I will need to get smart.

03-14-2013, 03:33 PM	#3
WeeYari View User's Garage Drives: 06 Polar White 5dr, 13 Soul 4u Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Georgetown, Ontario, Canada Posts: 5,740	195/50/16 rubber if you want to avoid bastardizing your car. __________________

03-14-2013, 03:35 PM	#4
Yarflana View User's Garage Drives: 2008 Base Model Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: TX Posts: 255	Not changing the rubber. If I cannot make it all work eventually, I will put the Eibachs back on.

03-14-2013, 03:37 PM	#5
Yarflana View User's Garage Drives: 2008 Base Model Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: TX Posts: 255	I get the sense that guys who are concerned about fender rub are trying to run with a softer ride. If I don't care about a softer ride, then I can go with less clearance because I can set my shocks (I have Tokico reds) at a lower dampening/stiffer ride and not be concerned with a lot of clearance...right? This is likely my route on the front anyways. The back has more fender clearance.

03-15-2013, 01:51 AM	#6
Kaotic Lazagna View User's Garage Drives: '14 GT86, '08 Vitz Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Central Valley, CA Posts: 9,873	The offset should be stamped on the back of the rims, most likely either on the hub or on one of the spokes. It'll say "ET__." Replied to your PM too. ;)

03-18-2013, 12:03 PM	#13
marlondog Shut your fricken suck!!! View User's Garage Drives: 07' liftback Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Lost Angeles Posts: 755	Get some camber bolts from micro image. Tell them that Marlondog sent you.

03-29-2013, 11:23 AM	#14
47_MasoN_47 What I thought I'd do was View User's Garage Drives: 09 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Northwest Alabama Posts: 1,140	Will camber help scrubbing the metal part that is kindof behind the wheel? When I turn to the left at full lock I scrub that thing pretty hard. I've knocked a fair bit of the paint off so I know exactly where it's rubbing, haha. The steel looks fairly thick there so I don't know if it would be safe to just dremel a notch out or not. __________________ My Nissan Hardbody (D21) 4x4 build log Check out my YouTube channel (mostly shooting) - http://www.youtube.com/user/47MasoN47

03-29-2013, 12:03 PM	#15
1.5 Form>Function Drives: 07 Flint Sedan Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,018	I am not seeing what youre trying to describe. Any pics? Negative camber would tilt the wheels in so if you are rubbing on the inside, camber may make it worse __________________ Instagram: @southernstreets_phil Facebook.com/southernstreetsempire

03-29-2013, 12:13 PM	#17
47_MasoN_47 What I thought I'd do was View User's Garage Drives: 09 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Northwest Alabama Posts: 1,140	__________________ My Nissan Hardbody (D21) 4x4 build log Check out my YouTube channel (mostly shooting) - http://www.youtube.com/user/47MasoN47

03-29-2013, 12:14 PM	#18
1.5 Form>Function Drives: 07 Flint Sedan Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,018	With how low that is compared to the wheel, negative camber should help tilt the wheel enough to space away from that portion. spacers would help too __________________ Instagram: @southernstreets_phil Facebook.com/southernstreetsempire

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