Strut Bar Advice. - Page 2 - Toyota Yaris Forums

BrazdonW · 02-28-2009, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Tamago

explain how it works please

To put it simply it connects at the top of the rear suspention bracing it when the car takes a turn
It helps distribute weight more evenly

PHXDEMON · 02-28-2009, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by *MAD DOG*

So in your opinion i'd be better off spending that money on springs instead? I'm never going to race my Yaris. I think stock springs are too soft.

Yes, springs are always first when modifying suspension.

anonymous user · 02-28-2009, 09:44 PM

Get a quick-release tab for your car, and you can remove the rear STB whenever easily!

mikenacarato · 02-28-2009, 10:07 PM

well personally, and it is what i did do, lower it first (df210s). then i did the trd rear anti-sway,then front UR strut bar, now the miracle bar. i noticed a handling difference in a positive way with every one of those mods. IMO as long as the strut bar is SOLID with no joints, it will be functional. i wont get a rear bar though as i have the miracle bar.

Tamago · 02-28-2009, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BrazdonW

To put it simply it connects at the top of the rear suspention bracing it when the car takes a turn
It helps distribute weight more evenly

what weight is it distributing, considering SHOCKS do not support weight of the vehicle?

BrazdonW · 03-01-2009, 10:20 AM

the weight being thrown around
the shocks do take weight being added threw a turn, as do the springs which is why they are all a part of the same cluster and compress together
if your shocks are blown your ride is horrible and you hear loud slams when you hit pot holes or go over speed bumps if it doesn't support any weight why would that happen?

Tamago · 03-01-2009, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by BrazdonW

the weight being thrown around
the shocks do take weight being added threw a turn, as do the springs which is why they are all a part of the same cluster and compress together
if your shocks are blown your ride is horrible and you hear loud slams when you hit pot holes or go over speed bumps if it doesn't support any weight why would that happen?

the shocks are NOT the same part of the "cluster" in the rear, as you say.

have you ever pushed on a shock? it resists your pressure. but it won't support weight.

if i carry a metal bucket full of bolts in the back of my car, and drive over bumps, it makes a loud slamming noise too.. does that mean that the bucket of bolts is supporting the weight of my car?

yaris-me · 03-01-2009, 12:24 PM

[QUOTE=Tamago;255331]the shocks are NOT the same part of the "cluster" in the rear, as you say.

have you ever pushed on a shock? it resists your pressure. but it won't support weight.

Shocks do transmit force. This will affect frame or strut rigidity.

Tamago · 03-01-2009, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by yaris-me

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tamago

the shocks are NOT the same part of the "cluster" in the rear, as you say.

have you ever pushed on a shock? it resists your pressure. but it won't support weight.

Shocks do transmit force. This will affect frame or strut rigidity.

yes, they do transmit FORCE. but in the case of the yaris, they transmit force in one direction. STRAIGHT UP. so attaching anything to the shock that doesn't resist this STRAIGHT UP FORCE (not weight) is useless, and should be considered a "looks-only" mod

guys.. just accept the fact that your spaghetti bar is mostly for looks. .

BrazdonW · 03-01-2009, 01:04 PM

so you are saying that it does not resist body flex or distribute the weight/FORCE more evenly?

Tamago · 03-01-2009, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BrazdonW

so you are saying that it does not resist body flex or distribute the weight/FORCE more evenly?

well let's see

it attaches to the shock.. in one place... only

the shock has a rubber grommet between it and the body

the bar pivots on both ends...

so no. it can't distribute force.. it bends like spaghetti when forces act on it.

SailDesign · 03-01-2009, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Tamago

well let's see

it attaches to the shock.. in one place... only

the shock has a rubber grommet between it and the body

the bar pivots on both ends...

so no. it can't distribute force.. it bends like spaghetti when forces act on it.

Hmmm... In my book that says it can apply force, but cannot apply moment.

Tamago · 03-01-2009, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SailDesign

Hmmm... In my book that says it can apply force, but cannot apply moment.

which means it's useless

have we finally come full circle here?

YAR1S · 03-01-2009, 03:21 PM

My car tends to wobble and sway on the highway at high speeds.... I was told putting a front strut bar on would be a good investment..... is this true and what could I get for a good price and where?

Thanks a lot.

ps: suspension is stock.

Benggolf2 · 03-01-2009, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Tamago

...guys.. just accept the fact that your spaghetti bar is mostly for looks. .

This is hilarious! Thanks for the laugh Tamago. BTW, are you Japanese or you happen to like "Tamago"?

Tamago · 03-01-2009, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by YAR1S

My car tends to wobble and sway on the highway at high speeds.... I was told putting a front strut bar on would be a good investment..... is this true and what could I get for a good price and where?

Thanks a lot.

ps: suspension is stock.

better tires will help the wobble more

but front upper strut bars are cheap, i say pick one up

Tamago · 03-01-2009, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Benggolf2

This is hilarious! Thanks for the laugh Tamago. BTW, are you Japanese or you happen to like "Tamago"?

the xA is white.. nicknamed the egg. tamago = egg lol

Black Yaris · 03-01-2009, 03:46 PM

I added a front strut bar to the toaster, it was super cheep, and it looks better than it preforms
my $50 investment in hub adapters/spacers yielded a much better performance gain... that and awesome tires

03-01-2009, 10:20 AM	#24
BrazdonW What kind of car is that? View User's Garage Drives: Yaris 3d liftback Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Columbia, MD Posts: 571	the weight being thrown around the shocks do take weight being added threw a turn, as do the springs which is why they are all a part of the same cluster and compress together if your shocks are blown your ride is horrible and you hear loud slams when you hit pot holes or go over speed bumps if it doesn't support any weight why would that happen? __________________

03-01-2009, 01:04 PM	#28
BrazdonW What kind of car is that? View User's Garage Drives: Yaris 3d liftback Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Columbia, MD Posts: 571	so you are saying that it does not resist body flex or distribute the weight/FORCE more evenly? __________________

03-01-2009, 03:46 PM	#36
Black Yaris der Zeck View User's Garage Drives: '05 Audi A4 1.8t quattro Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Toledo, OH Posts: 5,231	I added a front strut bar to the toaster, it was super cheep, and it looks better than it preforms my $50 investment in hub adapters/spacers yielded a much better performance gain... that and awesome tires __________________

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mikenacarato SIPNDEW View User's Garage Drives: 15 STI Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Brentwood, TN Posts: 2,281	well personally, and it is what i did do, lower it first (df210s). then i did the trd rear anti-sway,then front UR strut bar, now the miracle bar. i noticed a handling difference in a positive way with every one of those mods. IMO as long as the strut bar is SOLID with no joints, it will be functional. i wont get a rear bar though as i have the miracle bar.

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yaris-me Learn to Relax Drives: 2007, Meteorite, LB Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Anaheim, CA Posts: 2,070	[QUOTE=Tamago;255331]the shocks are NOT the same part of the "cluster" in the rear, as you say. have you ever pushed on a shock? it resists your pressure. but it won't support weight. Shocks do transmit force. This will affect frame or strut rigidity.