Why is the liftback heavier than the sedan? - Toyota Yaris Forums

Idjiit · 03-20-2006, 10:13 PM

...not by much, but it's heavier. I would assume it would be lighter since it's actually smaller. All the hatchback hardware? Bummer.

http://www.toyota.com/yaris/specs.html

Master · 03-20-2006, 10:31 PM

you're weird...it's TWO...count em ONE TWO fucking pounds heavier.

you should work harder on getting a return on taxes or some shit

Idjiit · 03-21-2006, 08:38 AM

Yeah, but intuitively I'd expect it to be maybe two hundred pounds lighter since it's missing two doors and is 16 inches shorter.

echo_hrs · 03-21-2006, 09:13 AM

Because it is more compact, The hatchback needs more reinforcement in the suspension/bumpers etc, to meet crash specs, which adds weight.

why? · 03-21-2006, 09:38 AM

Indeed. Odds are that it will also be more rigid, which means it will be easier to get it to handle better.

Sp33dY · 03-21-2006, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by why?

Indeed. Odds are that it will also be more rigid, which means it will be easier to get it to handle better.

The Hatch or Sedan?

Im quietly confident that the Sedan will be the better handling car ---- longer wheelbase, and better weight distribution.

why? · 03-22-2006, 09:47 AM

The hatch is heavier, yet it is shorter by 16 inches. This means that the chassis is stiffer, which by itself will mean better handling.

A longer wheelbase does not equate to better handling. They make the wheelbase longer because the ride will be better. Shorter cars in general handle better.

There is no way to tell weight distrubution without putting the car onto a scale that measures the weight at each corner.

Both cars stock will prolly handle very similar. I just believe it will be easier to make the hatch handle better, in other terms, I believe aftermarket parts will be more effective on the hatch.

DJ_SpaRky · 03-22-2006, 10:51 AM

FWD are almost always front heavy anyways

03-20-2006, 10:13 PM	#1
Idjiit 5 Stars, Bitches Drives: Prius, Silver Yaris Liftback Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Holly Springs, NC Posts: 451	Why is the liftback heavier than the sedan? ...not by much, but it's heavier. I would assume it would be lighter since it's actually smaller. All the hatchback hardware? Bummer. http://www.toyota.com/yaris/specs.html

03-22-2006, 10:51 AM	#8
DJ_SpaRky Resident Scion Guy Drives: 2008 Mazda3 S Sport Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Groveland, FL (Near Orlando) Posts: 285	FWD are almost always front heavy anyways __________________ Code: DiabolicJourney_SpaRky

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03-20-2006, 10:31 PM	#2
Master Hella Smart Drives: Lexus IS300 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: SF/SJ Posts: 81	you're weird...it's TWO...count em ONE TWO fucking pounds heavier. you should work harder on getting a return on taxes or some shit

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Idjiit 5 Stars, Bitches Drives: Prius, Silver Yaris Liftback Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Holly Springs, NC Posts: 451	Yeah, but intuitively I'd expect it to be maybe two hundred pounds lighter since it's missing two doors and is 16 inches shorter.

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echo_hrs Around the universe... Drives: Uber-Evolved Pokemon Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Top Gear Test Track Posts: 228	Because it is more compact, The hatchback needs more reinforcement in the suspension/bumpers etc, to meet crash specs, which adds weight.

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why? Only Happy When it Rains View User's Garage Drives: Yaris LB Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: harnett county NC Posts: 4,097	Indeed. Odds are that it will also be more rigid, which means it will be easier to get it to handle better.

03-22-2006, 09:47 AM	#7
why? Only Happy When it Rains View User's Garage Drives: Yaris LB Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: harnett county NC Posts: 4,097	The hatch is heavier, yet it is shorter by 16 inches. This means that the chassis is stiffer, which by itself will mean better handling. A longer wheelbase does not equate to better handling. They make the wheelbase longer because the ride will be better. Shorter cars in general handle better. There is no way to tell weight distrubution without putting the car onto a scale that measures the weight at each corner. Both cars stock will prolly handle very similar. I just believe it will be easier to make the hatch handle better, in other terms, I believe aftermarket parts will be more effective on the hatch.