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Old 07-12-2010, 11:07 PM   #1
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Camcon VVTi Cam Timing Controller Thoughts?

Here is an item i found browsing the web. It claims 15% more power. Any thoughts? Anyone try it already?

http://www.powerenterpriseusa.net/pr...con/camcon.htm
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Old 07-12-2010, 11:22 PM   #2
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This is INTERESTING. Only piggyback I know to control VVT-i (Garm, your custom FIC doesn't count). I know PE has a pretty bad rep on this forum, but otherwise I believe they're trusted elsewhere. The price isn't ludicrous either. Depending on the feedback here I may decide to be the guinea pig rather than going with an eManage blue...
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Old 07-13-2010, 04:08 AM   #3
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Heres what the celica guys say
http://www.newcelica.org/forums/arch.../t-207225.html

I miss my 92 Celica GTS...
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Old 07-13-2010, 11:33 AM   #4
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Garm, your custom FIC doesn't count
I have an EMS, not an FIC.

Jason uses (or was using) the CamCon with good results. There is more than one thread on it on here.
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Old 07-13-2010, 01:12 PM   #5
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Here is an item i found browsing the web. It claims 15% more power. Any thoughts? Anyone try it already?

http://www.powerenterpriseusa.net/pr...con/camcon.htm
That depends on what engine revs and load where is that 15% of "more power" they claim. The camcon is related to the variable cam adjustment to retard or advance cam timing.

If you run stock and use the car for daily/street use, Toyota's stock cam timing setting is the best of all on an average on all engine speed and loads. You probably can get 15% more on high mid till high rev range but you then are probably loosing 25% of power between low to mid range speed.

Although you can still try it out and prove me wrong
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Old 07-14-2010, 01:07 PM   #6
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I have an EMS, not an FIC.

Jason uses (or was using) the CamCon with good results. There is more than one thread on it on here.
It came with the car. We (us and our tuner) thought the thing would be a joke, but we decided to go ahead and play with it while we waited on our new system. We were all surprised by how effective it was, especially considering the little control it gives you.

I don't have my laptop with the dyno charts with me, but we found improvements throughout the power band, hp and tq. Short of a stand alone, I would say it is a worthwhile mod.

Found my previous post on our results: Checked the files, 11.1lb-ft tq and 13.2hp, on a Dynapack. Keep in mind those are flywheel numbers calculated from the hubs, not at the wheels power.
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Old 07-14-2010, 01:44 PM   #7
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Thats awesome. Someone is offering me one new for $300. It is the old model CC-101, which model are you using Jason? Which other mods are you using with this?
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Thats awesome. Someone is offering me one new for $300. It is the old model CC-101, which model are you using Jason? Which other mods are you using with this?
I think it is a 101, no idea what the difference is.
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Old 07-14-2010, 02:59 PM   #9
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Jason, since you track your car often, you probably reset your ecu a lot. Do you know if the ecu adapts to settings over time?

Also, how greatly does your tune vary from the settings posted by power enterprises.
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Jason, since you track your car often, you probably reset your ecu a lot. Do you know if the ecu adapts to settings over time?

Also, how greatly does your tune vary from the settings posted by power enterprises.
We have a kill switch and shut off the power to the car whenever it is not in use. We have not seen any difference in output from when we first tuned it.

I did not tune it, we use a pro, so I have no idea how the settings compare. But imo, if you buy any type of tuning device and don't get a pro tune, on a dyno, you are not getting the full potential out of it - a tune needs to be calculated into the cost.
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a tune needs to be calculated into the cost.
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Old 07-14-2010, 05:27 PM   #12
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i was hoping to do this driving around with a data logger. lol
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Old 07-15-2010, 02:50 AM   #13
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i had it installed on my car for awhile now just never had it tune im running modified stock settings listed on the site but i do feel a difference over not having it...my midrange feels alot stronger over no camcon. it was the 101 btw thats for toyotas
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Old 07-15-2010, 05:21 PM   #14
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hmmm. so you are running the website tune for 100 octane on your yaris without any detonation?
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Old 07-17-2010, 07:03 PM   #15
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no problems well yet for the least its been running those settings for awhile...no sounds, no check engine light etc...
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Old 07-17-2010, 08:54 PM   #16
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thats great to know, i'm definitely going to get it now. i'll get a better tune eventually, but with all of the other parts i still need to add, it would be a waste to do it now.

teejay, what gas are you using?
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Old 07-18-2010, 06:14 AM   #17
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good to hear you'll enjoy if any problems does arrise ill let ya'll know. btw the 100 octane in japan would be like our 87 theres different restriction they have out there and etc etc.

im using just regular 87 i feel like i get a slight power increase out of the 89 but i figure as long as i stay with a top tier brand it should be fine.
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Old 07-21-2010, 06:56 PM   #18
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just bought one yesterday
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