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Old 11-05-2008, 01:50 AM   #1
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Post Official Richard Holdener *MID-RANGE* Intake Manifold List

$699, only sign up if you want the *MID-RANGE* intake. This won't happen unless we get 10 people interested. Want max performance above 4000rpm up to redline instead? Go sign up for the top-end manifold, same price, all top-end power! The mid-range intake really doesn't have any advantage once you get over 55mph and out of 2nd gear.

Also, if you're signed up for the top-end model already, I won't let anyone swap over to this list as a confirmed sign-up as that could reduce the top-end list below the 10-count they need (and reached legit before I started this list!) to get the top-end model produced. I'll have to decline any more switches unless they can find someone to take their place on the top-end list and have that swap CONFIRMED.

I'll link to your post where you say you're interested in the mid-range. Also, I'll update this at least once a day, but I work odd hours.

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2.Klink10 Also signed up for top-end! May change to mid-range.
3.bdc87 Also signed up for top-end! May change to mid-range.
4.anonymous user Also signed up for top-end! May change to mid-range.
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Old 11-05-2008, 03:11 AM   #2
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I'm very interested, but also very broke.
I'll let you guys know if can can commit soon enough.
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Old 11-05-2008, 08:46 AM   #3
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Yes I am interested, yes I did already commit. Yes, I am also waiting for the dyno charts to compare, but i will follow through either way.

And NO I'm not a YES man......lol
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Old 11-05-2008, 10:22 AM   #4
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whens the deadline? If i have some time before this ends i will go ahead and commit. is this manifold a direct bolt on and can work with all factory things? i was going to get an intake and exhaust first but i would rather take this opportunity on this manifold. as long as i have time to save im in.
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Old 11-05-2008, 10:44 AM   #5
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I'm on the list for the top end but would much rather have the mid.
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Old 11-05-2008, 01:30 PM   #6
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whens the deadline? If i have some time before this ends i will go ahead and commit. is this manifold a direct bolt on and can work with all factory things? i was going to get an intake and exhaust first but i would rather take this opportunity on this manifold. as long as i have time to save im in.
Deadline is unknown at this time, if we can get 10 for the mid-range it gets made. Otherwise only the top-end-focussed intake gets made (which already has the 10 minimum people signed up) and they'll cost the same either way.

It's a direct bolt-on, yes. No fabrication work needed. And it works with no Check Engine Lights, just swap-and-enjoy. It does benefit from additional work like exhaust and swapping the throttle body for a larger one (details will get re-posted eventually, they got lost when the site was hacked sadly).
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Old 11-05-2008, 01:33 PM   #7
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I'm on the list for the top end but would much rather have the mid.
traitor! what, you not a "racer" like us!? haha
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Old 11-05-2008, 01:40 PM   #8
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well in a drag isnt it the torque that wins races?? ;) so are these mid range even giving more torque.

also, add me to the list, im in fo sho
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Old 11-05-2008, 01:46 PM   #9
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actually i heard it's the high end that you want for the 1/4 mile. was i mistaken? there was a discussion on this before along time ago before the hack. R.I.P. so i might have read it wrong! doh

Because the torque gets you to your ultimate power of the engine in the high rpms. If you are "racing" you should be shifting at like 6000rpms. Then the rpms would drop to like 4000rpm after every shift? So it's constantly in the high rpms. Only the initial start from the line is when you wish you had the mid range mani?

However you might be right. I would think with the low end torque from the mid range manifold working together with the turbo lag would be the best combination? wouldn't the mid range get you to spool faster?


someone clarify this because if the mid range is what i'm looking for, i need to switch lists and be a traitor. i'm looking for best 1/4 mile time. and i am planning on going turbo in the near future. do i need mid range? or do I need high end?
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Old 11-05-2008, 01:49 PM   #10
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ya it can help some, what REALLY helps is port and polishing the turbo inlet. i got my gt2871r on my volvo to spool 500rpm faster that way.
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Old 11-05-2008, 01:52 PM   #11
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In a drag race, you spend most of your time above 4,000 RPM... so no, that logic wouldn't hold true. Nice try, though!
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Old 11-05-2008, 01:53 PM   #12
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that's what I was thinking
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Old 11-05-2008, 01:58 PM   #13
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dont hold me to this but i am pretty sure the mid range manifold falls flat on its face at higher rpms.so you may get a jump down low but you will get a nice look at my yaris as i pull past. i personally dont mind revving the motor.
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Old 11-05-2008, 02:06 PM   #14
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exactly, it'll be like the high end manifold has a lag to it, but once it reaches the 4000rpm mark. SEE YA!
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Old 11-05-2008, 02:07 PM   #15
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Guys, I don't want to crap in your thread, but I'll say it once for the sake of arguing. I think this thing is a waste of money. If you want track performance, buy they other one. If you want daily driving performance, stop modding your damn car. Take your $700 and buy a scooter.
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Old 11-05-2008, 02:09 PM   #16
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i dont think you will notice the lag but you will notice a power jump.ther is no hp loss in the lower rpms and there is some jabs o tourqe 2500,3500rpm and that is an a stock yaris.
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well i would stop modding the yaris and get a bike but i have 2 problems, 1 i havent even received the yaris yet, and 2 i already have a bike! ;)
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Old 11-05-2008, 02:15 PM   #18
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i dont think you will notice the lag but you will notice a power jump.ther is no hp loss in the lower rpms and there is some jabs o tourqe 2500,3500rpm and that is an a stock yaris.
oh yah. i definately know what you mean. i was just making a bad example. i was just saying in the terms of, it will seem stock until BAM 4000rpms!


and yah i don't understand why the non "racers" want the mid range. So you can zoom to the street lights faster?
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