DIREZZA STAR SPEC vs YOKOHAMA S.DRIVE - Toyota Yaris Forums

RacerFreakXXX · 11-24-2009, 12:11 AM

When it comes down to it it's about the tires... I can get the same wheel, in the sizes to fit both tires just the Direzza is a 195/55/15 and the Yokohama is a 195/45/16. I know the Drezza is better on the smooth track but my roads are the exact opposite except for the twists and turns. What's your opinion on these tires?

Loren · 11-24-2009, 01:41 AM

The two tires are not in the same league. If you want a true summer performance tire with stellar grip, telepathic turn-in (and, yes, stiff sidewalls), then get the Star Spec.

If you want a really good performance all-season tire... get the S.Drive.

ddongbap · 11-24-2009, 02:39 AM

Yummy Stars....

People are having issues with the S Drives, as they tend to scallop.

Phaeton · 11-24-2009, 08:30 AM

The Dunlops are great, until it rains. Then it's a whole different game. I drive around a really twisty lake road to work everyday, they scared me too many times now I've got some toyos.

BrazdonW · 11-24-2009, 11:35 AM

If you are looking for summer tires dont forget the potenza RE-11 ;)

kngrsll · 11-24-2009, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phaeton

The Dunlops are great, until it rains. Then it's a whole different game. I drive around a really twisty lake road to work everyday, they scared me too many times now I've got some toyos.

i never found them to be that bad in the rain at all

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrazdonW

If you are looking for summer tires dont forget the potenza RE-11 ;)

the RE11 might be the sliiiiightest better for another $50 a tire!

i have used the star specs in autox, about a dozen track days, and daily driving and i cannot believe how good of a tire it is... i will be buying another set this winter

ROCKLAND TOYOTA · 11-24-2009, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phaeton

The Dunlops are great, until it rains. Then it's a whole different game. I drive around a really twisty lake road to work everyday, they scared me too many times now I've got some toyos.

i found that to be the same with the star specs im currently running. first time in the rain SCARED THE SHIT out of me with no ABS....

RacerFreakXXX · 11-24-2009, 03:07 PM

now the star specs are proven on a track to be great but when roads aren't smooth it's a different story, that's why i'm considering the s.drive's. I just need sumthing performance but great in the rain.

Loren · 11-24-2009, 04:09 PM

Toyo T1R. Very good grip, outstanding in the rain, quiet and comfortable. Turn-in is a little sluggish due to their soft sidewalls, but that's their only fault. (aside from not being SUPER grippy like a top-tier summer tire)

RacerFreakXXX · 11-24-2009, 11:01 PM

don't T1R's wear quickly?

kngrsll · 11-24-2009, 11:13 PM

i think you are thinking of R1R's, which do wear quick, but are fast

RacerFreakXXX · 11-24-2009, 11:15 PM

ahhhh maybe i am

RacerFreakXXX · 11-24-2009, 11:23 PM

my only concern is they toyo's are $30-$40 more than I was looking to spend per tire. I'm was looking for $80-90 range on a 195/45,50 or 55/16 or 15. I'm not planing on going much over 100mph, just want something I can push the car in and still have it grip well.

kngrsll · 11-24-2009, 11:50 PM

you dont need an extreme summer unless you want to autox or track the car...

try here: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/types/tiretype.jsp

the top is more expensive, grippy, and will wear out quicker and will suck in the rain. as you go down, everything goes the opposite direction...

Loren · 11-25-2009, 01:07 AM

Toyo R1R is a completely different animal from the T1R. The R1R is on par with Star Specs (probably even better... but pricier).

RacerFreakXXX · 11-25-2009, 01:11 PM

I was looking more at price, that's why I chose these 2 tires. Also in my original post I said it was for mainly street use. I guess the S.Drives will be my choice.

kngrsll · 11-25-2009, 01:15 PM

i just ordered a new set of star specs today... w00t!

RacerFreakXXX · 11-25-2009, 01:58 PM

how do they drive in the rain compared to the stock tires?

11-24-2009, 12:11 AM	#1
RacerFreakXXX JDM Fred View User's Garage Drives: 06 Mazda Miata Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Somers NY Posts: 787	DIREZZA STAR SPEC vs YOKOHAMA S.DRIVE When it comes down to it it's about the tires... I can get the same wheel, in the sizes to fit both tires just the Direzza is a 195/55/15 and the Yokohama is a 195/45/16. I know the Drezza is better on the smooth track but my roads are the exact opposite except for the twists and turns. What's your opinion on these tires?

11-24-2009, 01:41 AM	#2
Loren What? Drives: 2007 Yaris LB Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Safety Harbor, FL Posts: 1,006	The two tires are not in the same league. If you want a true summer performance tire with stellar grip, telepathic turn-in (and, yes, stiff sidewalls), then get the Star Spec. If you want a really good performance all-season tire... get the S.Drive. __________________ ----------------------- Loren@InvisibleSun.org -----------------------

11-24-2009, 11:35 AM	#5
BrazdonW What kind of car is that? View User's Garage Drives: Yaris 3d liftback Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Columbia, MD Posts: 571	If you are looking for summer tires dont forget the potenza RE-11 ;) __________________

11-24-2009, 04:09 PM	#9
Loren What? Drives: 2007 Yaris LB Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Safety Harbor, FL Posts: 1,006	Toyo T1R. Very good grip, outstanding in the rain, quiet and comfortable. Turn-in is a little sluggish due to their soft sidewalls, but that's their only fault. (aside from not being SUPER grippy like a top-tier summer tire) __________________ ----------------------- Loren@InvisibleSun.org -----------------------

11-24-2009, 11:13 PM	#11
kngrsll Apexing Egg!! Drives: 07 Toyota Yaris white hatch Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Spartanburg, SC Posts: 872	i think you are thinking of R1R's, which do wear quick, but are fast __________________ HighTach Motorsports 2007 Toyota Yaris-ARGH!! Mods: Tokico HTS, 6.6 kg F, 6.1 kg R custom springs, 23 mm RSB, 2-way TRD LSD, 15x7 +25 Team Dynamic wheels, 195/55/15 Dunlop Star Specs, Cobra Suzuka S

11-24-2009, 02:39 AM	#3
ddongbap Banned Drives: yw calls me douche and racist. Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: hay Posts: 2,183	Yummy Stars.... People are having issues with the S Drives, as they tend to scallop.

11-24-2009, 08:30 AM	#4
Phaeton View User's Garage Drives: Blazing Blue Liftback Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Port Angeles, Wa Posts: 385	The Dunlops are great, until it rains. Then it's a whole different game. I drive around a really twisty lake road to work everyday, they scared me too many times now I've got some toyos.

11-24-2009, 03:07 PM	#8
RacerFreakXXX JDM Fred View User's Garage Drives: 06 Mazda Miata Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Somers NY Posts: 787	now the star specs are proven on a track to be great but when roads aren't smooth it's a different story, that's why i'm considering the s.drive's. I just need sumthing performance but great in the rain.

11-24-2009, 11:01 PM	#10
RacerFreakXXX JDM Fred View User's Garage Drives: 06 Mazda Miata Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Somers NY Posts: 787	don't T1R's wear quickly?

11-24-2009, 11:15 PM	#12
RacerFreakXXX JDM Fred View User's Garage Drives: 06 Mazda Miata Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Somers NY Posts: 787	ahhhh maybe i am

11-24-2009, 11:23 PM	#13
RacerFreakXXX JDM Fred View User's Garage Drives: 06 Mazda Miata Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Somers NY Posts: 787	my only concern is they toyo's are $30-$40 more than I was looking to spend per tire. I'm was looking for $80-90 range on a 195/45,50 or 55/16 or 15. I'm not planing on going much over 100mph, just want something I can push the car in and still have it grip well.

11-24-2009, 11:50 PM	#14
kngrsll Apexing Egg!! Drives: 07 Toyota Yaris white hatch Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Spartanburg, SC Posts: 872	you dont need an extreme summer unless you want to autox or track the car... try here: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/types/tiretype.jsp the top is more expensive, grippy, and will wear out quicker and will suck in the rain. as you go down, everything goes the opposite direction... __________________ HighTach Motorsports 2007 Toyota Yaris-ARGH!! Mods: Tokico HTS, 6.6 kg F, 6.1 kg R custom springs, 23 mm RSB, 2-way TRD LSD, 15x7 +25 Team Dynamic wheels, 195/55/15 Dunlop Star Specs, Cobra Suzuka S

11-25-2009, 01:07 AM	#15
Loren What? Drives: 2007 Yaris LB Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Safety Harbor, FL Posts: 1,006	Toyo R1R is a completely different animal from the T1R. The R1R is on par with Star Specs (probably even better... but pricier). __________________ ----------------------- Loren@InvisibleSun.org -----------------------

11-25-2009, 01:11 PM	#16
RacerFreakXXX JDM Fred View User's Garage Drives: 06 Mazda Miata Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Somers NY Posts: 787	I was looking more at price, that's why I chose these 2 tires. Also in my original post I said it was for mainly street use. I guess the S.Drives will be my choice.

11-25-2009, 01:15 PM	#17
kngrsll Apexing Egg!! Drives: 07 Toyota Yaris white hatch Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Spartanburg, SC Posts: 872	i just ordered a new set of star specs today... w00t! __________________ HighTach Motorsports 2007 Toyota Yaris-ARGH!! Mods: Tokico HTS, 6.6 kg F, 6.1 kg R custom springs, 23 mm RSB, 2-way TRD LSD, 15x7 +25 Team Dynamic wheels, 195/55/15 Dunlop Star Specs, Cobra Suzuka S

11-25-2009, 01:58 PM	#18
RacerFreakXXX JDM Fred View User's Garage Drives: 06 Mazda Miata Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Somers NY Posts: 787	how do they drive in the rain compared to the stock tires?

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