Toyota to Debut 2018 Yaris At New York; No Mention of Yaris GRMN

[Kalispel]

You would have to really like the Yaris, or hate the iM, to select a 2018 Yaris SE over an iM it would seem. The 2018 Yaris SE is only $400-500 less than an iM with the same transmission type, and the iM is noticeably better equipped, with better hauling/cargo room. The Yaris probably beats the iM by about a good 3-4 MPG or so though in normal city driving, and at least 1-2 better on the highway.

https://www.toyota.com/yaris/

[kimona]

^^^ Doesn't the iM offer the 6-Speed Manual or the terrible CVT automatic?

[Kalispel]

Originally Posted by kimona

^^^ Doesn't the iM offer the 6-Speed Manual or the terrible CVT automatic?

Yes, that's true. I've read that the iM CVT is best locked in the sports-mode for a decent/good driving experience within the drivetrains limitations of the iM, but don't really have any significant experience with CVT's or automatics - outside of a handful of short test drives or short-term rentals over the last 37 years of driving. Even though I'm not in the market for another car until 2020-2021, I probably should go out and try out some CVT's to better understand what the fuss is all about.

I see what you mean though. From a pure price standpoint versus features/materials offered, the Yaris SE is seemingly trounced by the iM now that it is in Toyota's official stable (versus being a Scion bastard) - but key selling points to both cars could easily come down to very simple things like style preferences, vehicle size, exact transmission type preferences, and the like.

[kimona]

Originally Posted by Kalispel

Yes, that's true. I've read that the iM CVT is best locked in the sports-mode for a decent/good driving experience within the drivetrains limitations of the iM, but don't really have any significant experience with CVT's or automatics - outside of a handful of short test drives or short-term rentals over the last 37 years of driving. Even though I'm not in the market for another car until 2020-2021, I probably should go out and try out some CVT's to better understand what the fuss is all about.

I see what you mean though. From a pure price standpoint versus features/materials offered, the Yaris SE is seemingly trounced by the iM now that it is in Toyota's official stable (versus being a Scion bastard) - but key selling points to both cars could easily come down to very simple things like style preferences, vehicle size, exact transmission type preferences, and the like.

I don't like what Toyota (North America) did to the otherwise very decent looking Auris, but the iM offers a lot more car for the money than the Yaris. Plus, with discounts and rebates that never seem to apply to the Yaris, the iM may in fact be had for less money than a Yaris.

I would suggest you drive the Honda Fit CVT for starters. I really wanted to like that car, so I test drove it several times. In addition, to uncomfortable seats, miserable handling (compared to the Yaris), and some low quality interior fabrics, the CVT was dreadful!

The Corolla CVT is better, but I bought my father a new 2015 Corolla L because the 4-speed automatic performed so much better than the CVT. Now, unfortunately, all Corollas have the CVT. Too bad.