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Old 05-04-2009, 02:43 PM   #55
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ordering these tonight, what are they a knockoff of????

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Old 05-04-2009, 02:45 PM   #56
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Old 05-04-2009, 03:19 PM   #57
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haha i knew they were a knockoff of somein, i just didnt know what

Now i just gotta pick up some gram light center caps from ebay and hell ill be good to go
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Old 05-04-2009, 03:27 PM   #58
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haha i knew they were a knockoff of somein, i just didnt know what

Now i just gotta pick up some gram light center caps from ebay and hell ill be good to go
good luck with that.
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Old 05-04-2009, 03:27 PM   #59
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they're not identical. it's not a knock off
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Old 05-04-2009, 03:33 PM   #60
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they're not identical. it's not a knock off
technically.

Visually rota stole the aesthetic design of the wheel to cater towards individuals who wanted to look the part of a better/more expensive wheel, or exploit the ignorance of the uninformed, and since that worked so well were able to sell wheels for cheap catering towards the frugal minded who know the design (visually) was stolen yet prefer to spend their hard earned money on a less expensive wheel that meets their needs.
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Old 05-04-2009, 03:34 PM   #61
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EDIT: sorry I didn't waste anymore time finding a photo of the exact size/color wheel. :)
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Old 05-04-2009, 03:36 PM   #62
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EDIT: sorry I didn't waste anymore time finding a photo of the exact size/color wheel. :)
still not identical, i'm not talking about size and color
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Old 05-04-2009, 03:46 PM   #63
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he frugal minded who know the design (visually) was stolen yet prefer to spend their hard earned money on a less expensive wheel that meets their needs.
reason why it's popular....

so as using p2p programs to download songs, movies and some porno flicks...
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Old 05-04-2009, 03:48 PM   #64
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reason why it's popular....

so as using p2p programs to download songs and movies...
that's a biproduct of them being popular for the first reason, if they didn't sell as many for the first reason they wouldn't be cheap for the 3rd reason. haha.

oh well, most people have already chosen sides. :D
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Old 05-04-2009, 04:40 PM   #65
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what saddens me the most is, rota not "copying" hayashi, techno and other old school rare wheels...
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Old 05-04-2009, 04:50 PM   #66
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what saddens me the most is, rota not "copying" hayashi, techno and other old school rare wheels...
why not just buy a set used. :)

there a few quality Used JDM wheel suppliers.
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Old 05-04-2009, 05:26 PM   #67
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i like rotas because i also want to be able to afford tires, along with my wheel purchase
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Old 05-04-2009, 05:41 PM   #68
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i like rotas because i also want to be able to afford tires, along with my wheel purchase
tires are the most important thing, hopefully you're not skimping on those.
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Old 05-04-2009, 05:51 PM   #69
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heh thats why im gettin rotas so i dont skimp on tires. Im taking my time tryin to get this setup right
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Old 05-04-2009, 05:53 PM   #70
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Best advice you can give on something like this. Don't be brash.
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Old 05-04-2009, 06:07 PM   #71
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Rotas are reverse engineered, subpar cast wheels = fail

Expensive japanese wheels are usually forged or use cold spun forged drums with cast center disks. American wheels like CCWs, or Fikses are full forged. Forged > Cast anyday of the week.

Rota does not have the tooling required to make proper 2 and 3 piece wheels. They do not have the tooling to make forged wheels. That would raise the price. Low pressure casting is the absolute bottom rung of wheel manufacturing technology which is what Rota uses.

80 percent of expensive japanese wheels are anodize finished and clearcoated and/or have a anodize lip. Anodize > Clearcoated or powdercoated finishes. Anodized finishes do not peel, or fade and hold up to scratches much better. They are sensitive to acid based wheel cleaners, that's about it (use only soap and water)

Without originators, rota and other knockoffs are fucked. That speaks volumes. They are the equivalent of automotive leeches.

Tell me when rota starts making wheels for formula cars and full sanctioned race quality wheels. Then i would consider them safe enough for my street car.

Every wheel goes through heat and stress cycles when they get raced, which is why teams buy multiple sets of wheels and cycle them frequently. After 1-2 years, they get sold off or throw away. Any wheel can crack from such stress cycles. Wheels that are forged, semi-solid forged, etc or have real research and development put into them will last quite a bit longer.

Looks and style are only skin deep.
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Old 05-04-2009, 06:33 PM   #72
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Tell me when rota starts making wheels for formula cars and full sanctioned race quality wheels.
and this is why i love Team Dynamics :)
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