Factory lowering springs - Page 2 - Toyota Yaris Forums

birdy · 03-11-2006, 03:52 AM

i wish trd had coilovers for the yaris

I would get those. Every car I have owned has had a harsh ride so I am used to it.

GabL · 03-11-2006, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by sumik

Eibach is one of the best spring manufacturers, better for sure than Tien.

That's nice to know. However, Eibach doesn't have a suspension system specifically for Yaris yet, and dunno if they will have one, that's the cons...

The TRD set is 95000 yen, 25mm lowering on both front and back, while the TEIN Type Wagon is also 95000 yen, 35mm lowering on both.

Is TRD good compared to Eibach?

sumik · 03-11-2006, 10:52 PM

TRD is a departament developed to get more people interested in Toyota.
Remember that when u install TRD parts on the car that part is still under warranty and if it causes let's say shocks to die after short time u will get it replaced under warranty. But then u gotta settle for lets say smaller drop, and less of a responsive springs.
If u go with Tien, HKS, Eibach etc... U will get better response but they will wear out your shocks faster and they will void your warranty for the part it caused to wear out fast.
So it all depends on if u wanna go Pro with your suspension or just amateur and cool looking. And If you're not doing hard cornering and race a lot then I say go for Toyota Springs.

Master · 03-13-2006, 12:56 PM

In my experience, all "TRD" springs are manufacterd by Eibach. All shocks are made by Bilstein. You can go to the dealer and ask to install TRD components, but that's what you're going to get. All the shocks and springs are the same rate as the ones on the market that are not "TRD."

The only TRD specific rated springs and shocks are in Japan.

It would take YEARS probably when the car is out of warrenty for the stock shocks to be worn out by an after market spring. Shocks nowadays are gas charged and hold up very well. I believe stock shocks on most toyotas are made by koni or tobiko.

The only difference is that you keep your "warranty" if you get the components installed at the dealership. I don't know of many dealerships around my area that void a car for being lowered. They must be more anal about that in canada.

GabL · 03-13-2006, 02:39 PM

Well, I'm thinking to get the set (spring + damper) if I am to lower the car. So the shock should be able to run longer than the stock shock with lowered spring, am I right?

sumik · 03-13-2006, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Master

It would take YEARS probably when the car is out of warrenty for the stock shocks to be worn out by an after market spring. Shocks nowadays are gas charged and hold up very well. I believe stock shocks on most toyotas are made by koni or tobiko.

Well what about Matrix owners that Had Tien springs installed and some of the cars had shocks blow out after a year, makes the thought kinda scary, eh ?

Master · 03-13-2006, 04:55 PM

yea i know is300's with h&r drops (2 inches or more) run stock shocks for five years now.

i guess it depends.

GabL · 03-13-2006, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by sumik

Well what about Matrix owners that Had Tien springs installed and some of the cars had shocks blow out after a year, makes the thought kinda scary, eh ?

And the Matrix is built in Cambridge... ...

jcove · 03-14-2006, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Master

In my experience, all "TRD" springs are manufacterd by Eibach. All shocks are made by Bilstein. You can go to the dealer and ask to install TRD components, but that's what you're going to get. All the shocks and springs are the same rate as the ones on the market that are not "TRD."

The only TRD specific rated springs and shocks are in Japan.

It would take YEARS probably when the car is out of warrenty for the stock shocks to be worn out by an after market spring. Shocks nowadays are gas charged and hold up very well. I believe stock shocks on most toyotas are made by koni or tobiko.

The only difference is that you keep your "warranty" if you get the components installed at the dealership. I don't know of many dealerships around my area that void a car for being lowered. They must be more anal about that in canada.

It all depends on how much driving you do, as to when your shocks should be changed. It's sooner than you'd think. Most people agree that shocks should be changed approximately 75,000- 95,000 kms here in Canada.

GabL · 03-14-2006, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jcove

It all depends on how much driving you do, as to when your shocks should be changed. It's sooner than you'd think. Most people agree that shocks should be changed approximately 75,000- 95,000 kms here in Canada.

Esp. in Toronto, where we have pot holes on every street.

sumik · 03-14-2006, 02:40 PM

Well there's cars and cars, some like mentioned Matrix owners had their shocks go out after 1 year of driving(probably a lot of driving) and others like my buddys 97 VW Golf GTI rode on aftermarket springs for 230,000km :D

DJ_SpaRky · 03-23-2006, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by birdy

i wish trd had coilovers for the yaris

I would get those. Every car I have owned has had a harsh ride so I am used to it.

one word, Sportivo.

LOL j/p, "TRD" makes some coilovers, but they are under the brand of Sportivo aka WayDo Sportivo. http://trdparts.jp/english/parts_sportivo.html 1st row center.

plushDJ · 04-01-2006, 02:19 PM

So from what I'm understanding we have to order aftermarket parts from Japan, for now. Am I right??

ricko · 04-05-2006, 09:35 AM

Only if you want to go full race, and lower the comfort level of the car. Remember race tracks, even the bumpy ones like Mosport, are VERY smooth compared to the street. The factory kit (springs only) is a very good compromise if you are not a racer. Only took a day to order and install mine here in Ontariariario!

jcove · 04-05-2006, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ricko

Only if you want to go full race, and lower the comfort level of the car. Remember race tracks, even the bumpy ones like Mosport, are VERY smooth compared to the street. The factory kit (springs only) is a very good compromise if you are not a racer. Only took a day to order and install mine here in Ontariariario!

I've seen in another thread about a set of shocks you can get as well that are from TRD and they work really nice too. I can't remember what thread it's in. It was one of the people from Japan, I think. Sportivo kit or something like that.....

DJ_SpaRky · 04-05-2006, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ricko

Only if you want to go full race, and lower the comfort level of the car. Remember race tracks, even the bumpy ones like Mosport, are VERY smooth compared to the street. The factory kit (springs only) is a very good compromise if you are not a racer. Only took a day to order and install mine here in Ontariariario!

I'm leaning towards the Tein EDFC System, because you can have Presets, one for street & one for track. So I don't kill myself....or somebody else.

Springs should only take about 4 hours (maybe less) to do....IF you have the proper tools

ricko · 04-05-2006, 03:48 PM

Adjustable suspension .......... that is sooooo cool, and obviously the way to go. Me, I am happy with the improvement I got from the factory lowering springs: improved looks, slightly improved performance, but still very acceptable ride.

DJ_SpaRky · 04-05-2006, 04:02 PM

Here's the info on EDFC: http://www.tein.com/edfc.html

it's great to Street & Track cars, mine will be a daily driver & then autocross or SCCA race every once in a while.

03-11-2006, 10:52 PM	#21
sumik Drives: '06 Scion Xb Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Canada, Milton Posts: 39	TRD is a departament developed to get more people interested in Toyota. Remember that when u install TRD parts on the car that part is still under warranty and if it causes let's say shocks to die after short time u will get it replaced under warranty. But then u gotta settle for lets say smaller drop, and less of a responsive springs. If u go with Tien, HKS, Eibach etc... U will get better response but they will wear out your shocks faster and they will void your warranty for the part it caused to wear out fast. So it all depends on if u wanna go Pro with your suspension or just amateur and cool looking. And If you're not doing hard cornering and race a lot then I say go for Toyota Springs. __________________

03-14-2006, 02:40 PM	#29
sumik Drives: '06 Scion Xb Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Canada, Milton Posts: 39	Well there's cars and cars, some like mentioned Matrix owners had their shocks go out after 1 year of driving(probably a lot of driving) and others like my buddys 97 VW Golf GTI rode on aftermarket springs for 230,000km :D __________________

04-05-2006, 04:02 PM	#36
DJ_SpaRky Resident Scion Guy Drives: 2008 Mazda3 S Sport Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Groveland, FL (Near Orlando) Posts: 285	Here's the info on EDFC: http://www.tein.com/edfc.html it's great to Street & Track cars, mine will be a daily driver & then autocross or SCCA race every once in a while. __________________ Code: DiabolicJourney_SpaRky

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