Yaris Sedan Deadening and Sound system upgrade

[derickveliz2]

Ok, I found the way through the Firewall! way back behind the glove compartment, I'll use silicone to seal it later.

Next step... I'll take pictures at lunch just for the records...


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[derickveliz2]

I know it's a little off topic, but you know they should produce less noise than the snow tires right?

I also need to install 10mm penguin spacers in the back!

If the day would have at least 38 hours there is so much to do and little time to do it!

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[captaincrunch]

Nice. Tires go well too with the red

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by captaincrunch

Nice. Tires go well too with the red

Thanks


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[swidd]

wow they are cool.

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by swidd

wow they are cool.

Thanks swidd!


I put more CLD tiles on the floor and fire wall (right side / passengers side)
Some CCF (foam) and a layer of MLV.

There is a lot of work to do...

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[derickveliz2]

I put 2 speaker wires for speakers through the right panel to the door, this was very hard, I end up pulling everything out then put it back.

Even with only the center section been covered the noise reduction is very noticeable, I can't wait to finish sealing everything with MLV. Let me tell you something this process is very hard, lots of work and time consuming.

Here are some pictures of the deadening process on the floor...

1st picture CLD Tiles to flat surfaces and openings
2nd picture OEM foam and undercarpet material
3rd picture 1/4 CCF
4th picture MLV

[talnlnky]

Originally Posted by derickveliz2

1st picture CLD Tiles to flat surfaces and openings
2nd picture OEM foam and undercarpet material
3rd picture 1/4 CCF
4th picture MLV

interesting.... When I did my floors I did...

Mat
CCF
OEM Foam
(I didn't do vinyl)

I wonder what offers the best result CCF under, or on top of the OEM foam... Probably your way... oh well.

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by talnlnky

interesting.... When I did my floors I did...

Mat
CCF
OEM Foam
(I didn't do vinyl)

I wonder what offers the best result CCF under, or on top of the OEM foam... Probably your way... oh well.

Probably it won't make any difference I put the OEM foam first because fits better the lines of the floor.

I'm not using "Mat" as a sound barrier in this case if the metal panels produce any residual resonance after treating it with CLD Tiles, the foam helps as a cushion to stop resonance and increasing the effectiveness of the MLV barrier.

In this picture you can see how I'm holding the MLV to the Fire wall. I'm still going to slide MLV behind the fan and almost all the way up on the Fire wall.

The Vinyl is very effective leaving the noise out, works like magic.

Thanks

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[talnlnky]

Originally Posted by derickveliz2

Probably it won't make any difference I put the OEM foam first because fits better the lines of the floor.

I'm not using "Mat" as a sound barrier in this case if the metal panels produce any residual resonance after treating it with CLD Tiles, the foam helps as a cushion to stop resonance and increasing the effectiveness of the MLV barrier.

In this picture you can see how I'm holding the MLV to the Fire wall. I'm still going to slide MLV behind the fan and almost all the way up on the Fire wall.

The Vinyl is very effective leaving the noise out, works like magic.

Thanks

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yeah... what you call CLD Tiles I call mat.... back when I started installing sound proofing products they only had spray/paint on stuff, and two different types of absorbing adhesive sheets... one was aluminum backed, the other was not. The non-aluminum stuff you had to use a heatgun during application too. The term CLD tile didn't exist, at least not around car audio.

I might consider adding some of the MLV in the future... I ran out of mat... errr.. CLD's when I was doing my install (only had 125sq ft) and didn't get around to the firewall... Wish I had. I remember looking at it, and putting a few pieces on it... but I could've done a good two layers on the whole firewall. I also remember it looking like it would be a lot of work to get up in there and do the work.

[Emerge]

This is probably the coolest thread on this site I've seen. How much money do you guess you are saving yourself?

[talnlnky]

Originally Posted by Emerge

This is probably the coolest thread on this site I've seen. How much money do you guess you are saving yourself?

It's about saving noise.... not money. Funny thing is.... a lot of the time audio shops don't like doing large scale sound deadening jobs like this. They'll do it if you are willing to pay... but installers don't like doing this stuff.. it kills your back from all the bending over, and is time consuming. Installers would much rather you spend the hundreds of dollars on a fiberglass install instead.

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by talnlnky

It's about saving noise.... not money. Funny thing is.... a lot of the time audio shops don't like doing large scale sound deadening jobs like this. They'll do it if you are willing to pay... but installers don't like doing this stuff.. it kills your back from all the bending over, and is time consuming. Installers would much rather you spend the hundreds of dollars on a fiberglass install instead.

Emerge:
This is probably the coolest thread on this site I've seen. How much money do you guess you are saving yourself?

I agree, and the biggest satisfaction is the end results, even at my early stages, every time I slam one of my rear doors or the trunk It's a feeling only found on luxury cars and I may exagerate but even better.

Thanks Emerge I have no idea how much $$$ we are saving, I guess a LOT, this is the coolest site for our cars, GO YarisWorld!!!

I'm tired tonight so I just cut the OEM speaker out with an exacto knife and cut the plastic structures with a wire cutter, no big deal and the Zeus 6.5" fits perfect. I hope I can finish the door tomorrow (or should I install my new wheels! mmm I'll wait for black Lugnuts first)

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by talnlnky

yeah... what you call CLD Tiles I call mat....
I might consider adding some of the MLV in the future...

There is a difference between CLD Tiles and Mat, (this is my own version):

I can tell physically because I'm using both! first price $$ wise, each CLD Tile (6x10 inches) is about $2.30 each and the aluminum foil is very thick and hard to cut, I did cut my self many times with this product, it's very stiff and heavy, the adhesive is butyl... strong and less flexible, very different than the one found in the Mat I use. It would be too expensive to cover everything with CLD tiles (constrained layer damper)

Take a peak of this document (some may already seen it) with Products Reviewed:

B-Quiet Extreme and Ultimate, Brown Bread, Cascade Audio Engineering VB2,
Dynamic Control Dynamat Original and Dynamat Xtreme, Elemental Designs eDead v1 and eDead
v1SE, FatMat, RAAMaudio RAAMmat BXT, Second Skin Damplifier and Damplifier Pro,

Here is the LINK


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[talnlnky]

ok... .what brand of mat are you using then?

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by talnlnky

ok... .what brand of mat are you using then?

I'm using RAAMmat BXT from www.raamaudio.com

You can see the difference in the pictures with CLD Tiles, the tiles have no wrinkles... and I'm using RAAMmat BXT to block holes, and corners or on top of OEM material, some times to hold CCF in place and for plastic panels to add a little bit of strength.

CLD Tiles from www.sounddeadenershowdown.com

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[derickveliz2]

For lunch I had a couple dozens of crunches and some kind of Yoga going on! getting the Firewall treated it's very hard, especially on your body. But not impossible!

I put a few peaces of MLV behind the Fan/Cabin-air-filter and hold it in place with foam an lots of pressure. You can see the green foam on the left, behind that I slided a layer of MLV.

Then I took a big sheet of paper and kind of traced the corner shape all the way up, then cut a MLV following my traced paper and tuck in there, all the way up, the Amp wire is behind the MLV I don't know if this is ideal but it was kind of in the way; then hold it with a couple of bolts as you can see in the picture.

I cut it longer than I need it, on purpose so the wheel well gets 2 layers of MLV, I don't know if helps, but in this area for me it was easier to overlap a lot, instead of gluing to seal the MLV.









Thank you,

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[Herbicidal]

Holy smokes! It took me 2 1/2 days to get through all the posts in here! I've learned alot and before I found this thread started to sound deaden my sedan. I'm using RAAMmat BXT II with Ensolite. So far I've done the entire trunk. I'm saving the Ensolite for the passenger compartment/doors. I've removed my rear seat and plastic pieces so I can get to the wheel wells. I've decided I want to get new speakers front and rear so with all the stuff currently removed from the back half it seems like the perfect time to replace the speakers. I plan on deadening the doors and floor, but that will be it. I'll keep an eye on this thread and on SQComp's build too regarding the headliner. Hmmmmm.

Anyway this is a most excellent thread! I'm not going anywhere near as Xtreme as you Derick, but I applaud your efforts! Keep up the good work.