Two Problems - Toyota Yaris Forums

Echo86 · 02-25-2015, 09:28 PM

Hi All, it's been a cold winter here in Canada, but the car only recently did not start on the first try. Now I have to delay a few seconds before trying again. Usually it starts on the second try. I can tell the temperature makes it worse. I replaced the plugs and air filter in December. That is it. I checked the ground on the battery. It is secure. That's problem 1. Problem two is the power since repairing the exhaust. It had separated at the muffler flange. I plug welded the pipe together, it wasn't the greatest job and some wire may have gotten stuck in the pipe. The muffler makes a soft whooshing sound when the throttle is release during gear changes. I will do a proper repair with a new piece of pipe later. At least the rattling sound of the exhaust knocking about is gone. Cheers

fnkngrv · 02-26-2015, 09:28 AM

when you attempt to start does the starter drag at all? also how old is your battery? i personally find the oem battery to be garbage in cold climates. mine only lasted 3 years.

ern-diz · 02-26-2015, 11:26 AM

Someone else had the first issue here...

http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53853

...but it turned out to be a tightness of the - and + battery terminals thing.

fnkngrv · 02-26-2015, 11:27 AM

do you have a multimeter or voltage meter to check what it looks like when ypu engage the starter?

sheekeebut · 02-26-2015, 11:31 AM

Did you pass by your local crappy tire for a battery check?

IllusionX · 02-26-2015, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fnkngrv

when you attempt to start does the starter drag at all? also how old is your battery? i personally find the oem battery to be garbage in cold climates. mine only lasted 3 years.

On the contrary, it work very well in cold climates.
I still have my original panasonic battery from 2006.. It's about die this year, but it's going to last me through the summer when temps warm up.

sheekeebut · 02-26-2015, 01:23 PM

My 07's original battery has managed to start up on the first time every time even up to now, in -24 C cold. I wouldn't say the battery quality is bad or good, but I'm sure my conservative driving habits have kept it going all this time. My thing is to make sure the car gets an easy 10 km after every cold start.

Echo86 · 02-26-2015, 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sheekeebut

Did you pass by your local crappy tire for a battery check?

No, but it does pretty much the same thing at each start. Acts more like there's a bug in the system than sufficient power. The battery is going on 3 years though. I'll have it checked.

invader166 · 02-27-2015, 06:22 AM

Another question, what kind of oil are you running?
Lower-viscosity grades, make it easier for your engine to start from cold because they present less resistance to moving parts and hence take less power from your battery.

Echo86 · 02-27-2015, 04:45 PM

Conventional oil. Don't know the viscosity, just the regular stuff Mr. Lube puts in.

02-25-2015, 09:28 PM	#1
Echo86 Drives: 2003 Toyota Echo Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Oshawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 27	Two Problems Hi All, it's been a cold winter here in Canada, but the car only recently did not start on the first try. Now I have to delay a few seconds before trying again. Usually it starts on the second try. I can tell the temperature makes it worse. I replaced the plugs and air filter in December. That is it. I checked the ground on the battery. It is secure. That's problem 1. Problem two is the power since repairing the exhaust. It had separated at the muffler flange. I plug welded the pipe together, it wasn't the greatest job and some wire may have gotten stuck in the pipe. The muffler makes a soft whooshing sound when the throttle is release during gear changes. I will do a proper repair with a new piece of pipe later. At least the rattling sound of the exhaust knocking about is gone. Cheers

02-26-2015, 09:28 AM	#2
fnkngrv Mr. 155 and climbing View User's Garage Drives: Seriously Modded 07 Sedan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: In The Hotbox Posts: 4,742	when you attempt to start does the starter drag at all? also how old is your battery? i personally find the oem battery to be garbage in cold climates. mine only lasted 3 years. __________________ Team Tiamat Racing on Facebook Youtube Channel: Team Tiamat Racing *Class record holder in Land Speed @ 154.5mph for 1.5 mile and 145.5mph in the mile in the F (2.016 to 3.014 L), G (1.524 to 2.015 L), and H (1.016 to 1.523 L) classes.*

02-26-2015, 11:27 AM	#4
fnkngrv Mr. 155 and climbing View User's Garage Drives: Seriously Modded 07 Sedan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: In The Hotbox Posts: 4,742	do you have a multimeter or voltage meter to check what it looks like when ypu engage the starter? __________________ Team Tiamat Racing on Facebook Youtube Channel: Team Tiamat Racing *Class record holder in Land Speed @ 154.5mph for 1.5 mile and 145.5mph in the mile in the F (2.016 to 3.014 L), G (1.524 to 2.015 L), and H (1.016 to 1.523 L) classes.*

02-27-2015, 06:22 AM	#9
invader166 Pumpman Drives: 2019 Kia Soul EV Base Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Langley, BC Posts: 434	Another question, what kind of oil are you running? Lower-viscosity grades, make it easier for your engine to start from cold because they present less resistance to moving parts and hence take less power from your battery. __________________ "I would rather loose by a mile in a car I built myself, then win by an inch in a car that was built for me." - Moog

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02-26-2015, 11:26 AM	#3
ern-diz View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Liftback Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: CA all day Posts: 3,794	Someone else had the first issue here... http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53853 ...but it turned out to be a tightness of the - and + battery terminals thing.

02-26-2015, 11:31 AM	#5
sheekeebut Minimalist Drives: 07 silver sedan Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Mississauga, GTA, Toronto, ON Posts: 432	Did you pass by your local crappy tire for a battery check?

02-26-2015, 01:23 PM	#7
sheekeebut Minimalist Drives: 07 silver sedan Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Mississauga, GTA, Toronto, ON Posts: 432	My 07's original battery has managed to start up on the first time every time even up to now, in -24 C cold. I wouldn't say the battery quality is bad or good, but I'm sure my conservative driving habits have kept it going all this time. My thing is to make sure the car gets an easy 10 km after every cold start.

02-27-2015, 04:45 PM	#10
Echo86 Drives: 2003 Toyota Echo Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Oshawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 27	Conventional oil. Don't know the viscosity, just the regular stuff Mr. Lube puts in.