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Old 01-15-2017, 04:41 AM   #1
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Kia and Hyundai.

What the heck is going on with these two?

They have upped their game in a few years.

Now what is all this talk about stinger rwd sedan and 130 N AWD monster. What is it they can't do? they have surprised people.Hope KIA changes that badge though.

I am becoming a fan. Toyota, Honda, and Mazda better lift their game up.

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Old 01-15-2017, 04:55 AM   #2
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I own a KIA Sportage and driven a hyundai ILOAD.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89s4jin9qw8

Hyundai ILOAD. Now this Van has impressed me on how it drives. It's like a car not a van.It also has potential to turn into a camper van. I have driven a HIACE and that thing felt like a truck compared to the ILOAD.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myCaBLGVH_8


KIA sportage. This car didn't really impress me initially but after owning the 2 liter diesel for a year.This car grows on you it is easy to drive. Comfortable, smooth has enough pick on the highway. Very reliable it's just does the job with no complaints.It does everything good.

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Old 01-15-2017, 09:27 AM   #3
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Too many black circles in CR RELIABILITY RATINGS FOr me to consider buying one of them.

No matter how good they drive.
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Old 01-15-2017, 02:08 PM   #4
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I see how the are constructed in the body shops, yuck. don't their engines fall apart at 80,000 miles? yuck.
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Old 01-15-2017, 05:38 PM   #5
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I see how the are constructed in the body shops, yuck. don't their engines fall apart at 80,000 miles? yuck.

Yuck? how come. My sportage got into a collision and guess who came off second best. Not my car, hers..These things are built solid as fark..the only thing that go damaged was the radiator and air con unit.
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Old 01-16-2017, 05:24 PM   #6
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Hyundai and Kia are undeniably world-class auto makers nowadays. I've driven everything from a Kia Rio to a Hyundai Genesis, and they're great. It's a company that knows where its going and has really learned how to build good cars and appeal to the right markets. Good on them.
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Old 01-17-2017, 11:37 AM   #7
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As nice as they look these days, they've never passed my ol' kick the tires and test drive tests. The way the doors sound and feel when they actuate, how they feel on the road, etc.

For me, they're still leagues behind manufacturers like Honda and Toyota. I'd say it's all in my head, but the reliability reports Bronsin referenced and the regular use of that 100k mile warranty seem to confirm my bias.
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Old 01-17-2017, 01:36 PM   #8
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Id say theyre World Class like Ford, Dodge, and Mitsubishi are World Class.

Theres NO WAY any of those guys are getting my money!

Im reading in CR that the Honda Fit is only average in reliability.

That ones off my list too.

And if Toyota drops to average, I ll drop kick them too!
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Old 01-17-2017, 02:14 PM   #9
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Well, I guess it depends on how much faith you have in CR. I have very little. :)

The bottom line is that Kia and Hyundai are doing something very right and people are taking notice.
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Old 01-17-2017, 02:44 PM   #10
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...people are taking notice.
No denying that. Sales have been happening.

I keep looking out for a post from scratchpaddy (or was it dodge aries?) about their experience with an Elantra. As anecdotal as it may be, it didn't sound like it went well and I know there's been interest in the Elantra GT from others on the forum.
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Old 01-17-2017, 05:22 PM   #11
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The Aries guy is the one who got an Elantra due to the Takata airbag thing. I don't think he had problems with it, he just doesn't like it near as much as the Yaris.

From what I've seen and experienced, Kia and Hyundai interiors feel kind of cheap and don't hold up near as well as Toyota interiors, but they're not too bad mechanically and are generally easy to maintain. And man, they are CHEAP on the used market. A Toyota or a Honda might have a few less issues down the road, but that Kia costs half as much. I would not buy one new, but they can give you big bang for the buck used.

Consumer Reports (JD Power, too) only look at cars 3 years old or less. They think Audi has excellent reliability. The average car on the road is 11 years old. I don't think their findings have much relevance in the real world.
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Old 01-17-2017, 06:34 PM   #12
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Bought a '13 Soul 4u last August. Love it. Better equipped than a '16 equivalent trim level at half the cost. Used is definitely a bargain.

With the exception of unknown to me personally reliability, everything about it upscales my Yaris.


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Interesting stuff.
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Old 01-17-2017, 07:31 PM   #14
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my sister drives a 2014 sportage

very nice and comfortable on long road trips

ridiculously huge back seat
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Old 01-17-2017, 07:35 PM   #15
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the elantra gt is nice and similar to the yaris se with a lot more power

i prefer the yaris styling

and i dont care about horsepower since my yaris is for roadtrips/ sitting on the fwy at 80 all day/ night
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Old 01-17-2017, 07:42 PM   #16
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I get Kia and Hyundai trade ins at work. They don't hold any resale value, and even newer cars have issues. Shoot, a customer was fed up with his 2014 Hyundai with very low miles as it spent 6 months in the shop total. He said he can barely drive the car with the amount of time it goes back into the shop.
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I get Kia and Hyundai trade ins at work. They don't hold any resale value, and even newer cars have issues. Shoot, a customer was fed up with his 2014 Hyundai with very low miles as it spent 6 months in the shop total. He said he can barely drive the car with the amount of time it goes back into the shop.
I don't trust CR when it comes to cars at all, that is like trusting an AA guy to rate wine. But I've heard far too many kia and hyundai reliability nightmares to want to buy one, even if that new AWD N thing could be amazing.
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I don't trust CR when it comes to cars at all, that is like trusting an AA guy to rate wine. But I've heard far too many kia and hyundai reliability nightmares to want to buy one, even if that new AWD N thing could be amazing.
I don't really look at CR for anything. lol
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