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Old 04-02-2007, 08:18 AM   #1
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Synthetic Oil Cocktail

I needed to change my oil. (10K miles) I had 2 qts of Amsoil 0W-30, 1 qt of Mobil-1 0W-30, and 1/2 qt of Mobil-1 5W-30 laying around. I used a Napa Gold filter and in went the oils. It seems to run just fine, but I wanted some input from y'all on this. The 5W-30 was about 4 years old but was kept inside my house.

BTW - I overheard the Napa guy tell a customer to wait 'til you get 30K miles, then switch to synthetic oil, but you can never go back to conventional after that. LMAO! I wanted to ask him some more questions about synthetic oils but I was in a hurry. My brother was with me, being an ex-mechanic he was interested as well in what BS this guy was spreading on the subject. Where do they dream this stuff up?
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Old 04-02-2007, 08:35 AM   #2
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As long as we're talkin about oil. I'm comin up on my first oil change as well. I don't even know what the Yaris takes now that I think about it. What would be a good "performance" synthetic oil?
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Old 04-02-2007, 09:36 AM   #3
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AMSOil SAE 5W-30 Synthetic Motor Oil
2007 TOYOTA YARIS 1.5L 4-cyl Engine Code 1NZ-FE

FILTERS
Oil Filter........EAO09 AMSOIL Ea Oil FilterOil Filter........51394 WIX 51394 Oil Filter Air Filter........49104
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Old 04-02-2007, 10:10 AM   #4
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AMSOil SAE 5W-30 Synthetic Motor Oil
2007 TOYOTA YARIS 1.5L 4-cyl Engine Code 1NZ-FE

FILTERS
Oil Filter........EAO09 AMSOIL Ea Oil FilterOil Filter........51394 WIX 51394 Oil Filter Air Filter........49104
I would go Amsoil Series 2000 0W-30. Same Price and protects just as well.

No one game for a Synthetic Cocktail? Anyone ever tried it before. I don't think the additives should work against each other. I hope not anyway.
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Old 04-02-2007, 10:13 AM   #5
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have you guys got that The AMSOIL Preferred Customer Program?
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Old 04-02-2007, 10:29 AM   #6
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I would go Amsoil Series 2000 0W-30. Same Price and protects just as well.

No one game for a Synthetic Cocktail? Anyone ever tried it before. I don't think the additives should work against each other. I hope not anyway.

4-stroke motorcycle engine oil in your car.. hummmm interesting..

also for light cars and diesels... about 1 dollar cheaper too.

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Old 04-02-2007, 11:13 AM   #7
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TYPICAL PHYSICAL PROPERTIES (revised 02/05)
AMSOIL Series 2000 Synthetic 0W-30 Motor Oil (TSO)
Kinematic Viscosity @ 100°C, cSt (ASTM D-445)
11.2
Kinematic Viscosity @ 40°C, cSt (ASTM D-445)
56.9
Viscosity Index (ASTM D-2270)
195
Cold Crank Simulator Apparent Viscosity @ -35°C, cP (ASTM D-5293)
5520
Borderline Pumping Temperature °C (°F) (ASTM D3829)
-40 (-40)
Pour Point °C (°F) (ASTM D 92)
-54 (-65)
Flash Point °C (°F) (ASTM D 92)
226 (439)
Fire Point °C (°F) (ASTM D 92)
247 (477)
Noack Volatility (DIN 51581) 250°C for 1 hour, % weight loss
8.6
High Temperature/High Shear Viscosity cP, X°C, X s-1 (ASTM D4683)
3.4
Four-Ball Wear Test (ASTM D 4172: 40kgf, 150°C, 1800 rpm, 1 hr) Scar diameter, mm
0.39
Total Base Number
>11.0
TYPICAL TECHNICAL PROPERTIES
AMSOIL 100% Synthetic 5W-30 Motor Oil (ASL)
Kinematic Viscosity @ 100°C, cSt (ASTM D-445)
10.6
Kinematic Viscosity @ 40°C, cSt (ASTM D-445)
55.8
Viscosity Index (ASTM D-2270)
185
CCS Viscosity @ -30°C, cP (ASTM D-5293)
5106
Pour Point °C (°F) (ASTM D-97)
-50 (-58)
Flash Point °C (°F) (ASTM D-92)
228 (442)
Four Ball Wear Test
(ASTM D-4172B: 40 kgf, 75°C, 1200 rpm, 1 hr), Scar, mm
0.35
Noack Volatility, % weight loss (g/100g) (ASTM D-5800)
7.1
High Temperature/High Shear Viscosity
(ASTM D 4683 @ 150°C, 1.0 X 106 s.-1), cP
3.2
Total Base Number
12.2
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Old 04-02-2007, 11:21 AM   #8
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hahaha, i dont know what those numbers all mean, but either one is a good choice! i really dont think mixing those oils will cause any damage in the short or long run. we all live under a budget, and we use what we can. if we werent on a budget, we wouldnt be driving the yaris! amsoil states that you can even mix their oils with conventional oils, so your mixture with other synths and synth blends should be just fine. its not like you're mixing 5w-30 with 10w-50 (totally different viscosities)!! now that would be cause for concern...

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Old 04-02-2007, 11:57 AM   #9
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I hate it when people post with their sales BS instead of answering the original poster's question....to answer his question, NO the cocktaile you wrote of will not harm your engine.

To the Amsoil guys, could you please keep your commercial posts down to a minimum...otherwise I will complain to the web owners...and STAY ON TOPIC please!
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Old 04-02-2007, 12:15 PM   #10
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I hate it when people post with their sales BS instead of answering the original poster's question....to answer his question, NO the cocktaile you wrote of will not harm your engine.

To the Amsoil guys, could you please keep your commercial posts down to a minimum...otherwise I will complain to the web owners...and STAY ON TOPIC please!

lol
your funny.. shut up!
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Old 04-02-2007, 12:23 PM   #11
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I hate it when people post with their sales BS instead of answering the original poster's question....to answer his question, NO the cocktaile you wrote of will not harm your engine.

To the Amsoil guys, could you please keep your commercial posts down to a minimum...otherwise I will complain to the web owners...and STAY ON TOPIC please!


thanks for answering the original post, now shut up
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Old 04-02-2007, 12:27 PM   #12
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hahaha, i dont know what those numbers all mean, but either one is a good choice! i really dont think mixing those oils will cause any damage in the short or long run. we all live under a budget, and we use what we can. if we werent on a budget, we wouldnt be driving the yaris! amsoil states that you can even mix their oils with conventional oils, so your mixture with other synths and synth blends should be just fine. its not like you're mixing 5w-30 with 10w-50 (totally different viscosities)!! now that would be cause for concern...

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i dont know what it means either.. but it is the difference between the two.. maybe Pavel Olavich that knows mixing different oils is ok. can tell us what it means
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Old 04-02-2007, 01:25 PM   #13
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Yeah, I am being a cheapskate. I had a little worry that something would go weird on my oil by mixing competing brands. Mainly worrying about additives doing weird stuff when combined, but like someone said earlier, if you can mix it with conventionals, I should be OK. The Mobil-1 5W-30 was the old formula. Maybe a synergistic effect will occur in wich I will achieve 200WHP and get 98MPG. Oh well, wishful thinking...
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Maybe a synergistic effect will occur in wich I will achieve 200WHP and get 98MPG. Oh well, wishful thinking...
200whp in a yaris????

thats alot of NOS stickers...
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I mixed weights in my BMW motorcycle once and had no problems. I don't think it's a great idea but I'm sure your good to go.
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200whp in a yaris????

thats alot of NOS stickers...
Or at least 2 ZPI Stickers! I want that turbo!
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your funny.. shut up!

MAKE ME AMSOIL BOY! Why don't YOU take your AMSOIL and stick it!
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I hate it when people post with their sales BS instead of answering the original poster's question....to answer his question, NO the cocktaile you wrote of will not harm your engine.

To the Amsoil guys, could you please keep your commercial posts down to a minimum...otherwise I will complain to the web owners...and STAY ON TOPIC please!
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MAKE ME AMSOIL BOY! Why don't YOU take your AMSOIL and stick it!

Why did you post this? Follow your rules from your 1st post please.
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