Yaris Sedan Deadening and Sound system upgrade

[derickveliz2]

Congratulations!!! SQcomp

"1st Place Pro-Am"




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[sqcomp]

Derick,

Following up with the e-mail I dropped you tonight...

Go to the Audio section on your deck.

get to the 1/3 octave EQ portion.

Notice the L & R indicators? Selecting the EQ for either side is as simple as pressing the audio button in for three seconds. Then it should flip to either L or R to make specific side based adjustments.

Give it a try.

[sickpuppy1]

My ,what a sour puss in the pick,lol would it hurt that much to smile for winning.

[sqcomp]

That's Mike Peterson. He's a good man. Just the wrong split second camera shot.

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

Derick,
Go to the Audio section on your deck.
get to the 1/3 octave EQ portion.
Notice the L & R indicators? Selecting the EQ for either side is as simple as pressing the audio button in for three seconds. Then it should flip to either L or R to make specific side based adjustments.
Give it a try.

Thanks! I got it.

now lets get to learn and work... what do you think about these:

"When you are satisfied with the tonality of the system, it is time to start adjusting the left and right channels separately. These adjustments should not affect the tonality, but improve on the imaging and soundstaging. Using the Autosound 2000 Test CD 102 or 103 “My Disk” listen to the individual frequency pink noise tracks. (Test CD103 has the tracks arranged in an easier configuration.) Each frequency band should sound like it is coming from the center of the soundstage. If one band is off to one side, then use each band’s left and right eq controls as a balance control. This is very similar to the head unit’s balance control, only now you are balancing each frequency band by itself. For example if 200 Hz seems to be shifted to the left of center, lower the left 200 Hz band and raise the right 200 Hz band one dB at a time until the band is centered. If a frequency is shifted to the right, lower the band’s right channel and raise the left channel in small amounts." from a DIYMA member.

and this one....


"I must say that all I did was burn a CD that contained 0db tones that matched each one of the 31 bands on my EQ. Then I sat in my car for about 10 minutes and played each tone starting low and going up high. I kept my head perfectly still in the position I would normally drive down the road in.

Then I played each tone and adjusted the R and L EQ (graphic) and just played with cutting the R and then boosting the L and vice versa until I felt the sound was centered. Some bands needed up to +/- 3db and others needed no adjustment at all from what I could hear. And some bands I couldn't honestly resolve.

When I was done, I looked at my EQ and it was a MESS! LOL. Flipping back and forth between L and R yielded no pattern or symmetry at all. I thought, no possible way is this going to sound good. So I put in my Audiophile Female Vocal CD and cranked it up.

WELL SLAP MY A... AND CALL ME CHARLIE!! If Rebecca Pidgeon was 3 feet away from me she was a mile! It honestly felt like I had moved back in my seat, but my head had stayed in the same place the whole time. I estimate my stage moved 3" up and about 1 foot away...practially eliminating the windshield all together. I thought my stage was good before, but I damn near greased my shorts.

And the focus! Oh the focus...like I've never heard. Like scary real! Apparently sound recordings are done in actuall rooms, because it sounds like the singer is contained in a space, rather than just singing into a microphone" ... from another DIYMA member even though he has been banned


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[derickveliz2]

So for the record... here are my x-over points, EQ and Time Alignment as of today... Before the R - L EQ process:















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[packetrace]

Its amazing what you can do with the P99!!

[why?]

too bad you couldn't copy your settings onto usb and sell them. That is some amazing stuff.

[sqcomp]

Derick and I discussed a topic close to this yesterday. Even Derick's settings won't work for me...even though we're using similar speakers and the same type of deck (sort of).

Aiming, placement, speaker differences, and available power are just some of the factors that will change the sound from one Yaris to another.

...and damn you Derick! You cheat using that nice camera! :D I'd post up mine tonight if you'd like.

Derick's also not showing that you can change the crossover settings and the EQ from left to right on the P99. THAT is the cherry on top!

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

Derick and I discussed a topic close to this yesterday. Even Derick's settings won't work for me...even though we're using similar speakers and the same type of deck (sort of).

Aiming, placement, speaker differences, and available power are just some of the factors that will change the sound from one Yaris to another.

...and damn you Derick! You cheat using that nice camera! :D I'd post up mine tonight if you'd like.

Derick's also not showing that you can change the crossover settings and the EQ from left to right on the P99. THAT is the cherry on top!

I agree, for example I told you guys (9 or 10 posts above) I put my old Pioneer amp on the I6SW and my settings changed a lot, one little thing even like 5 or 10 degrees in Aiming makes everything so different, even with the Auto tuning of the P99 the numbers are so different and sounds good, but not good enough.

And the most important factor, every body listens in a different way, what sounds good for me probably won't sound good for some one else.

I didn't cheat using my old Nikon, that is why I like Picasa, makes my pictures look good! Yes please post yours

a cherry on top! yes indeed! it's like having to systems in one!


AUTO... T/A :




Yesterday Manual T/A using my ears and the sub up front:



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[sqcomp]

I took a grip of pics tonight with the point and shoot. I'll load them tomorrow night. On e thing I learned tonight was that I can't hear $hit over 17kHz. It was funny to me...I was listening to the 1/3 octave tones and the sound just hit a wall of silence after 16kHz. I'm looking around thinking, "well, damn! No dog whistles for me."

[sickpuppy1]

Yeah but then again, pick which instrument out of the orchestra that goes over 16K. Synthesizer ok, but...

[TOLMACH]

Originally Posted by sickpuppy1

Yeah but then again, pick which instrument out of the orchestra that goes over 16K. Synthesizer ok, but...

i think pink noise generator does the jon nicely.. it usually sits in the third row, fourth place from the left.. next to the horn and oboe

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^^^^^ Comment above = ))

[sqcomp]

You guys can be brutal sometimes!

[_S7V7N_]

Lolll!!!!

[TOLMACH]

I think back in 2007 or 2008 I was playing with my HX-D2 HU and pioneer midranges S01RS (1 gen) . i was crossing them at 16 and 20 khz trying to hear the difference using pink/white noise - and could definitely hear smth.. note sure what exactly but this made me think that I could hear beyond 16 khz ))

[sqcomp]

^This is Tolm



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