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02-13-2014, 04:06 PM | #415 |
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Gonna go with r1r. I love my rs3 but unavailable right now
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02-14-2014, 04:17 PM | #416 |
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Good choice. After my stint with the Rivals I'm probably gonna go back to the R1R unless someone else makes something as functional with lightweight cars.
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02-15-2014, 03:35 PM | #417 |
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I found the R1R's wore too fast compared to RS3's or Rival's, can't comment on dry grip. I remember them being excellent in the wet though
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02-15-2014, 06:13 PM | #418 |
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They do wear quite quickly. And wet performance is amazing as long as the tread depth is decent , I agree. I think Toyo's treadware standard is differs in the case that their 140 tw rating is a softer compound than competitors 140 tw rating. Treadware rating is only good for comparing tires of the same brand really.
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02-24-2014, 07:44 AM | #419 |
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what about the direzzas?
Comparing the 225s to the 195s is there a noticeable power drain or any decreased acceleration from the extra rubber? |
02-24-2014, 04:55 PM | #420 |
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The Toyos are smaller tires so they effectively gear down the car allowing for better acceleration if only a bit.
As far as grip goes, there all pretty similar, they have different handling characteristics, but generally for camber challenged cars you'll want the z2 or Rivals, as the Toyos need more a ton of camber to work to their fullest. I also found the Toyos wore pretty badly, but didn't feel all that great when driving them, that and they seemed to have this sharp curve around 2-3/32 where grip disappeared. |
02-25-2014, 04:36 AM | #421 |
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went with the R1R. Picked 2 up sunday. good tip on the 2/32 wear mark. Will run the toyo's up front for a bit and the hankooks in the back. May switch it up a bit during the season.
Got 3 autocross weekends back to back. This weekend is my region, saturday a novice school and sunday will be our 2nd event of the year, March 9th weekend me and my wife are visiting friends up in Knocksville TN and will do their autocross event that sunday, and then march 15-16 is our region dixie tour in Valdosta GA. Can't wait. Glad I got the tires when I did
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03-01-2014, 03:05 AM | #422 |
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I'll be running in East Tennessee Region next weekend at Pellissippi State in Knockville TN.
anyone here in that area?
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03-02-2014, 01:30 PM | #423 |
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A bit of irony,my first event in the rain with my rivals also is the first event I've been happy with them. New rear shocks worked wonders.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=PlsV0SoP_ew Last edited by xnamerxx; 03-02-2014 at 04:00 PM. |
03-03-2014, 11:41 AM | #424 |
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Nice xnamerxx, Can't watch at work, will hve to wait til I get home.
Did you go with the 205 or the 225 rivals? My first time with R1R.. They like LOW psi... dropped mine all the way down to 30psi.. and my rear was RS3 at 50psi. These tires do not talk back.. its either amazing grip, or exceeded grip. Trying to find that breaking point which you get max grip but if you push it too hard, felt like I hit puddles of water. A pro national guy had a light blue Mini Cooper running in STF came to run with us. Name is Joseph Austin. Real nice humble guy. He beat me by .1 of a second.. Not bad if I do say so myself. I did have riders on all 5 runs though.. so I could have gotten a better time but you never know. maybe their ballast helped me in those right hand turns. All in all, I say I do like the R1R but I definitly prefer the RS3, I may keep 2 R1R on rims for a rainy day, I hear they are the best for rain tires.
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03-03-2014, 04:10 PM | #425 |
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I originally bought 205 but had multiple tire failures and went with the 225. Not happy with them and they're just about dead now, so I'll be replacing them with something else soon. I really wanna get RS3 but I don't think that'll be an option till after nationals.
Yeah I ran the R1R at 27psi. One thing to note, if there making noise your doing something wrong. Joe is a super fast driver when he's clean. Congrats on getting within a tenth of him, I've yet to get that close. Hopefully I can take him down at San Diego this year but we'll see. |
03-04-2014, 11:42 AM | #426 |
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http://buccaneerregion.org/ce-2-14.html
Results got posted this morning. We had 95 drivers out on sunday. new record for us. Last month we had 87. This is becoming a big year in our region. Alot of new guys showing up. Placed 6th place out of 95 in pax. Not bad on new tires. Joseph got me by .125 of a second. His fastest run was his first. Thats impressive. There is a debate right now weather or not Scott Hurley got a cone on his fastest lap. Some people say they saw him hit it but wasn't called in from a corner worker.
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Oh, on the R1R topic, on my STC civic, they grip all the way down to the cords. Yes, I've tried it. ;) |
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03-05-2014, 12:02 PM | #428 |
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So the question is H Stock (proper with race tires) or STF... 2014 Corolla S.
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03-05-2014, 07:00 PM | #431 |
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I ran them mostly in San Deigo which is an asphalt site. I've been told by many people my experience was typical for that site and full tread tires are a must.
For the Corolla hmm HSR doesn't sound like fun, skinny R comps on skinny wheels with no camber gain. Might break a record for fewest runs before cording |
03-06-2014, 12:30 PM | #432 |
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Skinny Rs? 225s are easy, if the fenders will take a 245 could be pinched on those wheels. Like all Toyotas it should get crash bolts, so while it main not gain any it should start with -2, which is much better than the tire shredding Mini. That is a lot of car to make go on skinny street tires.
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