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Old 01-28-2010, 12:19 PM   #73
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since the toyota recall news...

I am sure the lady who just 'accelerated' into a laundromat, is a slap-happy lawsuit wannabe who did it intentionally just to gain attention in her sad boring life....you'll see
sounds like the women here who drove over a parking barrier and rammed into a wall claiming the pedal was stuck.....
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Old 01-28-2010, 01:00 PM   #74
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Well, maybe it wasn't intentional; but that doesn't mean it wasn't her fault/driver error and not the cars!
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Old 01-28-2010, 01:01 PM   #75
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Wow, anyone remember what the "unintended acceleration" problems did to Audi back in the late 70s-early 80s? The following is from Wikipedia...



I wonder if the same phenomenon is happening with the Toyotas?!?
Ya, the american media is hoping they can achieve this effect by playing the toyota recall 24/7. I guess it makes sense since we all own a piece of the american car companies.
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Old 01-28-2010, 01:56 PM   #76
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we may see a recall for the YARIS . A driver of a 2006 PRIUS had her car take off and crashed into a stream . Claims wasn't the pedal or the mat . Not sure if YARIS ( 1.5 ltr. engine ) and PRIUS ( 1.5 ltr engine ) use same unit made by C.T.S. and both are assembled in JAPAN . 2009 and 2010 PONTIAC VIBE now added to the list . Cars in CHINA and EUROPE will be recalling vehicles as well . Let's keep our fingers crossed .

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Old 01-28-2010, 02:01 PM   #77
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Apparently the 'bad' gas pedal assemblies were/are produced here in Mississauga, Ontario, Canada.
Front page news for today's Toronto Star. Headline: TOYOTA'S PERFECT STORM
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Old 01-28-2010, 02:11 PM   #78
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2009 and 2010 PONTIAC is now added to the list .CHINA and EUROPE are have been notified for recalls too .
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Old 01-28-2010, 02:23 PM   #79
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Just to put things into perspective......

Down through the years, there have always been cases of repoprted "gas pedal sticking"

Whether all cases have been true or made up in an attempt to divert attention from driver's screw ups we will never know.
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Old 01-28-2010, 02:24 PM   #80
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I had a throttle problem shortly after i bought the car (08 sedan),every once in a while (2-3 times a week)i'd get no response from the throttle,the car would remain in idle but no amount of pressing the gas peddle would make it do anything else,dealer changed a whole bunch of wires in the engine bay and the problem hasnt returned since
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Old 01-28-2010, 02:28 PM   #81
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Perhaps due to the bad publicity of TBW, we might see a retun to a cable actuated throttles?

No TBW can be good advertising copy for those concernd about the safety and performance of TBW
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Old 01-28-2010, 02:29 PM   #82
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I had a throttle problem shortly after i bought the car (08 sedan),every once in a while (2-3 times a week)i'd get no response from the throttle,the car would remain in idle but no amount of pressing the gas peddle would make it do anything else,dealer changed a whole bunch of wires in the engine bay and the problem hasnt returned since
Maybe you could post the work order or email a copy of the work order to the OP. That might help if they are experiencing this.
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Old 01-28-2010, 02:31 PM   #83
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yeah they kinda do. I have near molecular precision driving at slow speeds and can creep at any slow speed in my 4runner. that has a cable to the throttle body.

in any electronic drive, I just don't have that same precision. no matter what, there is a tiny jump from no throttle to small throttle. it blows.

it doesn't matter much in real life, but when I am parking my 2 rigs back to back I can
get so much closer with the 4runner than when driving the Yaris.

Agree....with a cable I can creep meticulously and with DBW sometimes I can and sometimes it bucks like a bull with a swollen prostate. I despise DBW but it's now the status quo.
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Old 01-28-2010, 02:58 PM   #84
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Something tells me driving like a grandma/hypermiling trains the ECU not to respond to light touches on the accelerator
Nope, I drive like a grandma and have never experienced this.

As a matter of fact, compared to my Jeep the Yaris gas pedal is as smooth as butter. Both are autos and the Jeep shifts into OD way too early (45 MPG). Plus, on several occassions it has accelerated a little--like a lurch--on me when I've had my foot on the brake (trust me, I an 100% it was on the brake!). It is a well known "characteristic" of 05 TJs/LJs attributed to the ECU bumping up the RPM at low speeds (2-5 MPH) when the front tires at at full lock thus putting a strain on the power steering, but it is discerning nonetheless!

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Old 01-28-2010, 03:10 PM   #85
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Ya, the american media is hoping they can achieve this effect by playing the toyota recall 24/7. I guess it makes sense since we all own a piece of the american car companies.
I think the media is just willing to air any sensational story to death, period. I don't see how they would have much agenda on this. After all, Toyota is a HUGE part of the American economy, between all the Toyota factories in the states, the dealerships, etc. It only hurts the US to have such a big player stop generating revenue, even for a short time.
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Old 01-28-2010, 04:53 PM   #86
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I think most Toyota owners will just blow this off, get it fixed, and still be damn
happy to own a toyota. it still wins over other cars.
one major problem isn't gonna take down the brand. it isn't hurting my image of Toyota, nor my co-workers who already own them.

if you've owned one long-term....you know what I am saying
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Old 01-28-2010, 04:58 PM   #87
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Perhaps due to the bad publicity of TBW, we might see a retun to a cable actuated throttles?

No TBW can be good advertising copy for those concernd about the safety and performance of TBW
that will never happen. it is impossible to meet new emission standards without electronic throttle controls except on very limited set of engine designs.

the lag between human foot on a cable to the throttle body vs the electronics
figuring out what you are attempting to do allows too many emissions. having the computer intervene ahead of time ensures the ECU can keep within parameters and never go outside the envelope.
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Old 01-28-2010, 05:00 PM   #88
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throttle controllers will help.. so far theyre about $125...not gonna make your car any faster but atleast itll get rid of that small annoying lag.
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i bet honda is taking advantage of this recall..
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Old 01-28-2010, 05:07 PM   #90
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i bet honda is taking advantage of this recall..
GM dealer by me has a billboard that reads" OUR PEDALS DON'T STICK"....
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