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Old 05-12-2014, 03:45 PM   #37
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Any specific years ?
I'm not very familiar with the Yaris TS in Europe , neither am I with the Yaris in North America to be honest .
anything from 99 to 2004. but i don't think they've made the TS in 99-2000.

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Does the odo mileage stay with the cluster or is it stored in the car's computer?

I want to do the same swap as you, but I want the actual odo reading to stay with the car.
It is stored in the cluster.
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Old 05-12-2014, 03:56 PM   #38
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The cluster I got had 87000 KM on it but looks like it is easy to put the millage where ever you want.

A bunch of people does it ( most of them illegally ) .
To answer the question milage stay in the cluster itself.
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Old 05-12-2014, 04:43 PM   #39
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The cluster I got had 87000 KM on it but looks like it is easy to put the millage where ever you want.

A bunch of people does it ( most of them illegally ) .
To answer the question milage stay in the cluster itself.
I can do the mileage reprogramming. It is illegal to change the mileage on a car, but in this case you are changing it to the correct mileage for the vehicle. I read an article recently about how high of a percentage of used cars have modified or replaced clusters and it actually makes it pretty scary to purchase a used car.
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Old 05-12-2014, 04:55 PM   #40
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This is why I'm keeping my old cluster with the millage and date written behind it.
That way I can prove the exact millage of my car.
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Old 05-13-2014, 12:40 PM   #41
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The cluster I got had 87000 KM on it but looks like it is easy to put the millage where ever you want.

A bunch of people does it ( most of them illegally ) .
To answer the question milage stay in the cluster itself.
Will Toyota Canada help me with this? Should I even ask them?

Does anyone know where I can get this done around Montreal?

I don't even have a cluster yet, but I feel it's indispensable to have a tach in a manual car.
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Old 05-13-2014, 12:46 PM   #42
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I may know someone locally .
Give me some time I'll ask.
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Old 05-13-2014, 01:21 PM   #43
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A co-worker made a few calls and he can have it done for $300.00 via the OBDII port.
It's a cheap price to pay if you want to do fraud but if it is for something 100% legit I think it is a little high.

I don't know if CTScott can do it just with the cluster in his hands but if it is the case just send it over him.

There is one for sale on KiJiJi right now. Ad # 592301748 . I bought my RS seats from him.
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Old 05-13-2014, 02:21 PM   #44
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A co-worker made a few calls and he can have it done for $300.00 via the OBDII port.
It's a cheap price to pay if you want to do fraud but if it is for something 100% legit I think it is a little high.

I don't know if CTScott can do it just with the cluster in his hands but if it is the case just send it over him.

There is one for sale on KiJiJi right now. Ad # 592301748 . I bought my RS seats from him.
I charge $50 + return shipping to do it. It actually can not be done via the OBDII port for Toyota vehicles. You have to reburn the EEPROM on the cluster with the encrypted odometer data.
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Old 05-13-2014, 02:29 PM   #45
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CTScott is the man to see when we talk about Echo & Yaris .
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Old 05-13-2014, 04:04 PM   #46
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A co-worker made a few calls and he can have it done for $300.00 via the OBDII port.
It's a cheap price to pay if you want to do fraud but if it is for something 100% legit I think it is a little high.

I don't know if CTScott can do it just with the cluster in his hands but if it is the case just send it over him.

There is one for sale on KiJiJi right now. Ad # 592301748 . I bought my RS seats from him.
Thanks! Is that guy negociable? There are tons of them in the local scrapyards (car-part.com) for around 50$. My '04 has 150k km and change, and a local scrapyard has one with 149k km for 80$.

I'm not super-comfortable with the idea of fudging with the mileage of the car just for the leisure of having a tach; do most modern cars have the mileage in the cluster, like this?
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Old 05-13-2014, 04:17 PM   #47
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all cars i've seen yet have mileage in the cluster.
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Old 05-13-2014, 04:30 PM   #48
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Seems too easy to swap.

Thanks a million for your help; I'll keep you all posted if/when I do the swap.

CTScott, I'll PM you if I do get one and need your services.

Thanks!
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Old 05-13-2014, 04:45 PM   #49
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Seems too easy to swap.

Thanks a million for your help; I'll keep you all posted if/when I do the swap.

CTScott, I'll PM you if I do get one and need your services.

Thanks!
yeah. nothing is preventing your to swap. lol
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Old 05-13-2014, 05:07 PM   #50
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I think this thread is a pretty good "How to" regarding swapping a Echo Cluster.
I don't know much about the Toyota Echo but maybe a Sedan with a RPM will work too , no ?
What is the difference between my 2005 RS cluster and a Sedan ?

Back ground ?
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Old 05-15-2014, 11:23 AM   #51
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Hey guys,

I've been following this thread for a while, very good information to be had here.

I'd just like to confirm something from the .pdf CTScott provided.

I have a 2000 Vitz that came automatic, I converted it to Manual and I am trying to install a tach.

In the .pdf it says the tach signal comes from the Black wire on the C13 connector, is this true?




The part number for my cluster is 83800-52110

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Old 05-15-2014, 11:34 AM   #52
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In the .pdf it says the tach signal comes from the Black wire on the C13 connector, is this true?
I'll answer that if you don't mind.

C13 ( Black ) is the tach signal and to get my 05 Tach to work in my 04 I took the signal on the OBDII port that is also the black wire and hooked it up to the Black wire on the C13 connector.

This is a very easy swap if you take your time.
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Old 05-15-2014, 12:00 PM   #53
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I'll answer that if you don't mind.

C13 ( Black ) is the tach signal and to get my 05 Tach to work in my 04 I took the signal on the OBDII port that is also the black wire and hooked it up to the Black wire on the C13 connector.

This is a very easy swap if you take your time.
That's what I'm confused about, my cluster didn't come with a tach gauge but I'm seeing the black wire in my C13 connector.

Can I pick up the tach signal from that wire? My Vitz is JDM so it doesn't have an OBDII port
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Old 05-15-2014, 12:08 PM   #54
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OBDII is not a universal thing ?

I'll let other people respond than because I'm not the best when comes electricity and diagrams .
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