changing gear from robotic to automatic - Toyota Yaris Forums

mariann · 04-05-2010, 10:54 AM

hey guys. how can i change an robotic transmission to fully automated transmission? year model 2007. should i have to compleatly replace the computer? or it can be replaced and connect to the same components?

Thanks

TheSilkySmooth · 04-05-2010, 11:19 AM

Why covert? Too much work and effort - sell manual trans car and buy car with Automatic. Is the Manual ( robotic?) damaged broken?

jambo101 · 04-06-2010, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSilkySmooth

Why/ too much work and effort - sell manual trans car and buy car with Automatic. Is the Manual ( robotic?) damaged broken?

I agree sell the Manual and buy an auto , which will be a lot cheaper than converting your current Manual to automatic.

mariann · 04-11-2010, 05:45 PM

in israel there is no automatic transmission for yaris. and corolla. only manual and robotic transmission.
the robotic is the same as manual transmission. its has a dry cluck and 6 gear. but its have no clutch pedal. the gearbox itself changing gears pressing the cluch. leaving it. accellerate and so by digital signals.
but its so aufull transmission...
there is a system wich prevent the engine to turn off by sensing the RPM and the stress on the engine. when needed its press only "Half cluch" exactly like MT. also it does that when you start driving. anyway. this system suck. its transfer from half cluch to full cluch without reasons. driving at trafic speed as 6 km/h or 3 mph can drive you crazy!
once i saw another corolla driver got out of the car in the middle of a trafic jam and kick hies car.
only few know why.
then he got in the car and drove to the side to calm down...

its like having a fight with the car
the transmission changing gear when he feels like. depending the slop angle of the car and the gas pedal.
it automaticly lowers gear when down-hill even when i dont want it to...
and up hill? well its starting to play with the gears. its has no lock or power button.
ho... and the manufactur orders " when starting the drive you must always use the handbrake" - the reason is that at the seccond you leave the brake and press the gas pedal the vehicle will roll back. its has no cluch or any power to hold it in place...
aufull gearbox with only one dry cluch... so you see why i wanna change the gearbox... insted of buying a new MT car.
by the way. at US the new yaris costs 16.000 $ here its costs 31.800$ to compare to the wage here. the minimum salery is 7 $ an hour. usually ppls work for 10 $ per hour avarage...
well its costs much more here then you can imagine.
a new yaris will take 24 months of full salery (on avarage)
anyway...
cant be change from robotic to automatic on a resonable price?

CTScott · 04-11-2010, 06:12 PM

You would have to change the ECM (engine computer as well), since the automatic transmission doesn't have a separate computer (like I believe your robotic one does) and the shift mechanism. There would also likely be some wiring differences between the two, so the ideal thing would be to purchase an engine wiring harness for a Yaris with the same engine, but with the automatic transmission.

Bluevitz-rs · 04-11-2010, 11:02 PM

Ah, like the MR2 Spyder had (has?). They called it the sequential transmission.

MadMax · 04-12-2010, 07:34 AM

You could look for a gray market imported Yaris with an auto, as it would cost you even more to import everything you need to change your manual transmission to an automatic.

matanfr · 04-12-2010, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mariann

hey guys. how can i change an robotic transmission to fully automated transmission? year model 2007. should i have to compleatly replace the computer? or it can be replaced and connect to the same components?

Thanks

shalom mariann,i'm from israel too,but i'll write in english so everyone will understand the infromation.you can "change" the robotic transmission to semi-automatic by moving the gear stick to the left from "Es" to "m".

the +- shifts to gears up or down respectively.please remember to remove your hand from the gas pedal in order for the clutch to engage.after you shift up or down put you leg again on the gas.
i know it's a little tricky..i you got used to driving only automatic transmission the shift to robotic transmission can become difficult sometimes.

jambo101 · 04-13-2010, 05:23 AM

I was assuming Robotic shifter was just another term for Automatic transmission,further reading seems to make me think its something else that we dont get over here in N.America,does it have something to do with the flappy paddle shifters around the steering wheel?

samiadola · 12-02-2011, 10:58 AM

matanfr , i live in jerusalem .. I am thinking of buying a corolla with robotic transmission , i know it's yaris world :P but i guess you are the only one to help on the internet ..
does this robotic transmission have many problems as they say or it just takes time to get used to it ?
Will it need to be repaired a lot or it is just like any other transmission ?

petyanca · 12-09-2011, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by matanfr

please remember to remove your hand from the gas pedal in order for the clutch to engage.

So you guys use hand to depress gas pedal? Left or right hand ? What do you do wiith your right leg? Hop through radio stations ? This robotic stuff is really puzzling.

A-Dingo-Ate-My-Baby · 12-09-2011, 01:51 PM

^ cut some slack not everyone translates well

How's your Modern Hebrew coming along ?

Qmobile · 12-09-2011, 02:42 PM

Sounds like the robotic tranny is similar to the old "auto-stick" vw had in the old bugs n stuff

petyanca · 12-09-2011, 06:43 PM

When I google "robotic transmission" the second page in results is this thread. Really rare earth stuff this is.

04-05-2010, 10:54 AM	#1
mariann Drives: yaris 2007 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: israel Posts: 39	changing gear from robotic to automatic hey guys. how can i change an robotic transmission to fully automated transmission? year model 2007. should i have to compleatly replace the computer? or it can be replaced and connect to the same components? Thanks

04-05-2010, 11:19 AM	#2
TheSilkySmooth Drives: 08 3DR 5M Bayou Blue; 09 Fos Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 622	Why covert? Too much work and effort - sell manual trans car and buy car with Automatic. Is the Manual ( robotic?) damaged broken? Last edited by TheSilkySmooth; 04-06-2010 at 09:06 AM. Reason: sp comp

04-12-2010, 07:34 AM	#7
MadMax Drives: 2008 Yaris Liftback (Sprocket) Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: San Antonio, Texas! Posts: 2,799	You could look for a gray market imported Yaris with an auto, as it would cost you even more to import everything you need to change your manual transmission to an automatic. __________________

12-09-2011, 02:42 PM	#13
Qmobile that's right I went there View User's Garage Drives: '08 Blazin' Blue,'10 Dark Red Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Hoytville, ohio Posts: 800	Sounds like the robotic tranny is similar to the old "auto-stick" vw had in the old bugs n stuff __________________ Mods: 15" SSC rims, TRD Exhaust, TRD Sway bar, TRD oil filler, TRD rad. cap, TYC tails, Debadged, Painted engine cover, Stock spoiler, Stock mud gaurds, OBX pedals. suggestions always welcome

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04-11-2010, 05:45 PM	#4
mariann Drives: yaris 2007 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: israel Posts: 39	in israel there is no automatic transmission for yaris. and corolla. only manual and robotic transmission. the robotic is the same as manual transmission. its has a dry cluck and 6 gear. but its have no clutch pedal. the gearbox itself changing gears pressing the cluch. leaving it. accellerate and so by digital signals. but its so aufull transmission... there is a system wich prevent the engine to turn off by sensing the RPM and the stress on the engine. when needed its press only "Half cluch" exactly like MT. also it does that when you start driving. anyway. this system suck. its transfer from half cluch to full cluch without reasons. driving at trafic speed as 6 km/h or 3 mph can drive you crazy! once i saw another corolla driver got out of the car in the middle of a trafic jam and kick hies car. only few know why. then he got in the car and drove to the side to calm down... its like having a fight with the car the transmission changing gear when he feels like. depending the slop angle of the car and the gas pedal. it automaticly lowers gear when down-hill even when i dont want it to... and up hill? well its starting to play with the gears. its has no lock or power button. ho... and the manufactur orders " when starting the drive you must always use the handbrake" - the reason is that at the seccond you leave the brake and press the gas pedal the vehicle will roll back. its has no cluch or any power to hold it in place... aufull gearbox with only one dry cluch... so you see why i wanna change the gearbox... insted of buying a new MT car. by the way. at US the new yaris costs 16.000 $ here its costs 31.800$ to compare to the wage here. the minimum salery is 7 $ an hour. usually ppls work for 10 $ per hour avarage... well its costs much more here then you can imagine. a new yaris will take 24 months of full salery (on avarage) anyway... cant be change from robotic to automatic on a resonable price?

04-11-2010, 06:12 PM	#5
CTScott ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 09 5dr LB, 2x 08 3dr LB Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: USA, CT Posts: 13,460	You would have to change the ECM (engine computer as well), since the automatic transmission doesn't have a separate computer (like I believe your robotic one does) and the shift mechanism. There would also likely be some wiring differences between the two, so the ideal thing would be to purchase an engine wiring harness for a Yaris with the same engine, but with the automatic transmission.

04-11-2010, 11:02 PM	#6
Bluevitz-rs 1NZ-6spd View User's Garage Drives: '05 6-Spd Vitz RS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Oshawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,967	Ah, like the MR2 Spyder had (has?). They called it the sequential transmission.

04-13-2010, 05:23 AM	#9
jambo101 Drives: yaris 08 sedan Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Montreal Canada Posts: 1,286	I was assuming Robotic shifter was just another term for Automatic transmission,further reading seems to make me think its something else that we dont get over here in N.America,does it have something to do with the flappy paddle shifters around the steering wheel?

12-02-2011, 10:58 AM	#10
samiadola I've made a post! Drives: daihatsu Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: jerusalem Posts: 1	matanfr , i live in jerusalem .. I am thinking of buying a corolla with robotic transmission , i know it's yaris world :P but i guess you are the only one to help on the internet .. does this robotic transmission have many problems as they say or it just takes time to get used to it ? Will it need to be repaired a lot or it is just like any other transmission ?

12-09-2011, 01:51 PM	#12
A-Dingo-Ate-My-Baby Banned Drives: yaris Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: earth Posts: 364	^ cut some slack not everyone translates well How's your Modern Hebrew coming along ?

12-09-2011, 06:43 PM	#14
petyanca Drives: 09 LB, 3 door, auto Join Date: May 2009 Location: CA Posts: 23	When I google "robotic transmission" the second page in results is this thread. Really rare earth stuff this is.