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10-23-2006, 07:31 PM | #1 |
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BEWARE of Konig Helium (Pic & Video) !!
I don't want to start a debate, but I just want to warn your seriously about the Konig Helium wheels. Even if you don't drive you car heavily or do race, the Konig Helium are VERRRRRY easy to broke even with no "low-profile" tires. They may be VERY dangerous! I've always loved these wheels, but this is before watching that video and looking at this picture!
The main problem of the Konig Helium is the material used to build the wheel. Because they want to do a very cheap priced and very light weight wheels, they don't use light high-quality alloys because it's too much expensive. They just design a wheels with a very thin design and use some LOW DENSITY alloys who it light, but break as easy as glass! Here's the picture to begin, let's notice this is not a low-profile tire... : Here's the video : http://photoshow.comcast.net/watch/A...12ca2f41436652 Unfortunately, there's PLENTY of horror story about the Konig Helium all over the web...
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10-23-2006, 07:48 PM | #2 |
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Pictures don't lie...
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10-23-2006, 07:50 PM | #3 |
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I've read about this before, and I've seen the exact same photos.
Wheels are wear goods after all, so they will break no matter what. I'm not sure how these particular Konig Heliums cracked, and under what circumstances. Repeated loads and unloads can create small cracks we cannot see, different levels of side loads depending on the vehicle, and other factors can contribute to cracks that end up like this. Most of the broken Konig stories are from people who used them for auto-x. Konig has issued a statement before, stating that they will replace any broken or cracked wheel if it is found that they were damaged due to original defect. I'm not terribly worried about this as horror stories usually stick out more than positive reviews when you are doing your research. But again, I stress, wheels are WEAR GOODS. If they wanna break then they will!
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10-23-2006, 07:56 PM | #4 | |
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10-23-2006, 08:32 PM | #5 |
Look mum no stars!!
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Obviously if something is really cheap its obviously low quality.
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10-23-2006, 08:55 PM | #6 |
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Right. The price of the Konig Helium may be very attractive, but how they can offer a very cheap and light weight product? By using the "crappiest" material to build thier wheels...
You can buy many others cheap priced wheels, like BSA, IKON/ICON or Eagle-Alloys brands. They all build very cheap priced wheels. They are not light weight, but at least they are safe and they will not kill yourself on the road.
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10-23-2006, 09:24 PM | #9 |
What "video"? I only saw a slideshow.
Looks like a pretty good gouge behind the one spoke. What could have caused that?! |
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10-23-2006, 11:09 PM | #10 |
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I am wondering how this rim got cracked!!
mine wasn't cracked like that .. but .... see for yourself; this was after my Yaris ran over a big hole on the road @ speed 40-50 km/hr |
10-23-2006, 11:32 PM | #11 |
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ack that looks scary...
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10-24-2006, 02:35 AM | #13 |
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I have personally seen wheels like that come into my friends shop after a little drunk driving in a echo hatch here in toronto.... I was told that it just tapped the curb.. But 2 of them looked just like that picture.
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10-24-2006, 02:52 AM | #14 |
damn.. thats scary..
i had heliums on my last car and had no problem glad i sold the rim tho.. u get what u pay for.. |
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10-24-2006, 07:59 AM | #15 |
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Yes that's true. You get what you pay for... while others light weights wheels cost around 200$ a wheel, the Konig Helium who are light weight cost 90$ a wheel... it doesn't make sense for me.
In fact, the low density alloy process is easy to understand; you have many empty particles in the alloy structure (it's like a Gruyere cheese!), this result in a light weight structure, but easy to break as glass.
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Thats why I got rims that look like they can handle alot of pressure.
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10-24-2006, 04:40 PM | #17 |
Ahhh yes and thats why I hate low profile tires. I liked the little song that played with the video. It made me want to go get a gun and shoot myself. Looks like someone had too much time on their hands. All he had to do was post some pics and say what happened. The guy probably took it off a jump or something
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10-30-2006, 06:26 PM | #18 |
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If you're going to ask people to avoid a product, at least present some solid reasons.
Pictures are useless without a story.
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