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Old 04-22-2013, 02:27 AM   #37
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No, I lost touch with them just before it closed as the NUMMI plant. I was wondering if they hired any of the NUMMI workers because I thought he might have gotten his job back, so to speak (sans UAW of course).
Ah, then I misread your post. I thought he was also rehired and was working overtime at Tesla. Sorry.
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Old 04-22-2013, 02:59 AM   #38
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Ah, then I misread your post. I thought he was also rehired and was working overtime at Tesla. Sorry.
No biggie. Thanks for the info.
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Old 04-22-2013, 02:37 PM   #39
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Toyota is really starting up this confusion mess again. Now look at the 2013 Yaris Hatchback err Vios Hatch -

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Old 04-22-2013, 02:40 PM   #40
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Old 04-22-2013, 04:43 PM   #41
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Sorry, but that's ugly.
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Old 04-22-2013, 06:15 PM   #42
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Vios hatch???

C'mon Toyota, this model overlap and name confusion is getting a bit out of hand.

Having totally different lineups in every country can't be all that efficient. I know Toyota makes more money than any other automaker, but it would be better if streamlined.
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Old 04-22-2013, 06:56 PM   #43
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Yeh the back is really ugly. Thing is Toyota started to streamline in the last 10 yrs, now they seem to be starting up this nonsense again.
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Old 04-22-2013, 07:11 PM   #44
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One of the things I like most about the USDM, etc. 3rd Gen 5-door hatch is that that small second window (that is easier to break than a larger one) was eliminated from the rear passenger doors. This puts a small window right back in the mix. Idiotic.
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Old 04-22-2013, 10:26 PM   #45
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That taillight just looks like the designer fell asleep and slipped while designing and said, "F it, keeping it."
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Old 04-22-2013, 11:21 PM   #46
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Now it's looking like a Corolla with aa Ford grill, wtf


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Old 04-23-2013, 02:35 AM   #47
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with aa Ford grill, wtf
Exactly! That's why I added the Fiesta and the Focus to the Matrix in my comment.
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Old 04-23-2013, 10:28 AM   #48
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that yaris has a fu manchu
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Old 04-23-2013, 10:52 AM   #49
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Those vehicles above: possibly a Chinese market vehicle? I wouldn't worry too much about it.

Me? I'm not a huge fan of the Vios sedan, personally. Just my two cents.

And as far as the four-speed gearbox thing goes, I don't really get the big deal. Yaris still gets mileage that is on par with its competition. Plus, using a "parts bin" transmission allows Toyota to keep costs down, not to mention it's proven technology.

The Yaris is still competitive with regards to performance among the segment. So why does it need another gear if it's fuel economy and performance are at the levels of other cars with five- and six-speed automatics?
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Old 04-23-2013, 11:29 AM   #50
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So why does it need another gear if it's fuel economy and performance are at the levels of other cars with five- and six-speed automatics?
It doesn't need it. It's just marketing(imo).
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Old 04-23-2013, 04:40 PM   #51
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Oh , out of our price range . . How about the former SATURN plant ?
GM started building the Chevy Equinox in Spring Hill, TN (old Saturn plant)
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Old 04-23-2013, 05:56 PM   #53
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Gah! I was just about to post that. lol. Glad I'm not the only one who sees it.
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Old 04-23-2013, 11:09 PM   #54
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GM started building the Chevy Equinox in Spring Hill, TN (old Saturn plant)
Strike 2 .
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