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Old 12-25-2016, 11:44 PM   #1
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Suspension questions

I have a 12 Yaris SE, rear disc brakes of course.

This is what I have,

Tanabe sustec coilovers (not installed)
White line 22mm rear sway bar ( not installed)
White line 14mm front camber bolts (not installed)

What do I need to buy to ensure a proper alignment for the front and rear together? Do I need camber shims?

Should I install the camber bolts when I put the coil overs on or let the Toyota dealer install them?

Does anyone know part number for energy suspension front sway bar bushings? My car has 53k miles so I'm sure they are okay, but like to have them on hand.
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Old 12-26-2016, 05:31 PM   #2
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If you want more negative camber than stock, then install the camber bolts prior to sending it for alignment and tell the shop what camber you want. If you just want to reduce tire wear for normal driving, you are probably fine without the camber bolts (but bring them along for when the alignment is done just in case).

Rear camber shims are not required, and far as I have seen the only ones available are plastic (which are not safe).
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Old 12-27-2016, 12:12 PM   #3
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Would you have any suggestions for what to tell them to set the front camber on with the white line bolts? I have really no idea what would be ideal. I like to take turns aggressively and wouldn't mind getting into some autocrossing with the car but that is about it for now.

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Old 12-27-2016, 02:58 PM   #4
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You're probably going to want -2.0° to -2.5° camber up front. -2.5° is going to be around max the bolts will get you. If you drive hard and autoX, this will help reduce outside edge wear and make the car faster. If you don't drive hard, you may see some uneven tire wear.
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Old 12-27-2016, 03:58 PM   #5
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I have a 12 Yaris SE, rear disc brakes of course.

This is what I have,

Tanabe sustec coilovers (not installed)
White line 22mm rear sway bar ( not installed)
White line 14mm front camber bolts (not installed)

What do I need to buy to ensure a proper alignment for the front and rear together? Do I need camber shims?

Should I install the camber bolts when I put the coil overs on or let the Toyota dealer install them?

Does anyone know part number for energy suspension front sway bar bushings? My car has 53k miles so I'm sure they are okay, but like to have them on hand.
Hey u have a 4 door or hachtback

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Old 12-27-2016, 06:36 PM   #6
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It is a 4 door hatchback se.
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Old 12-27-2016, 06:37 PM   #7
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It is a 4 door hatchback se.
Ok the u got the part# all ready

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Old 12-27-2016, 06:40 PM   #8
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Ok the u got the part# all ready

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For the camber bolts and the shims

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Old 12-27-2016, 09:12 PM   #9
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The front camber bolts are white line brand, part # KCA414.

I didn't order any shims, CoryM didn't recommend to get any.
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Old 12-27-2016, 09:17 PM   #10
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Thanks for the awesome help so far, any idea about the sway bar bushings anyone?
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Old 12-29-2016, 06:06 PM   #11
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I was just looking at the info on the bolts, why do they say the max they will give is 1.5 degrees camber? Anyone know?
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Old 12-29-2016, 06:10 PM   #12
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I was just looking at the info on the bolts, why do they say the max they will give is 1.5 degrees camber? Anyone know?
The u know how much u need to fix

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The u know how much u need to fix

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Because if u need more the 1.5 - camber u need to buy a different bolt

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Because if u need more the 1.5 - camber u need to buy a different bolt

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Old 12-29-2016, 07:37 PM   #15
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http://www.whiteline.com.au/product_...CA415&sq=33019

White lines site said 1.75 degrees of camber for their bolts. I'm not ordering another set at this point. So I'll just ask for the most negative camber they can set it on when I get it aligned for the front.
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Old 12-29-2016, 07:48 PM   #16
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http://www.whiteline.com.au/product_...CA415&sq=33019

White lines site said 1.75 degrees of camber for their bolts. I'm not ordering another set at this point. So I'll just ask for the most negative camber they can set it on when I get it aligned for the front.
That is typically for an installation only utilizing a single crash bolt per strut, if you want more camber you need to install two per strut. If you are daily driving the car and just looking to make it more sporty, stick with a single bolt maxed out. If you are setting up for the track get a pair at start at -3.
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Old 12-29-2016, 08:46 PM   #17
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Cool, thanks Jason! I'm new to camber adjustments, does it matter if the single bolt is at the top or bottom when doing just one?
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Cool, thanks Jason! I'm new to camber adjustments, does it matter if the single bolt is at the top or bottom when doing just one?
For a single bolt I would put it at the top, use the OE bolt on the bottom.

Also keep in mind the advertised spec on the box is the range of adjustment, not the finished product. If your car is +0.5 camber stock, and bolt allows for +/-1.75 adjustment, best case you will have -1.25.
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