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Old 07-15-2009, 02:16 PM   #109
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This was my biggest trouble back when I was hypermiling, too.

Do you folks ever worry you are really cheesing-off the drivers behind you as you accelerate nice and easy in city traffic? I couldn't seem to get the fuel efficient starts I wanted because I knew the drivers behind me were "not exactly" in economy mode.

Good question. My wife always tells me that someone is going to shoot me for holding up traffic!

I do get concerned that I am coasting to a stop sign/light and causing the vehicles behind me to spew more pollution as a result of my actions. I work in transportation and know from experience that vehicles put out more pollution and PM at lower speeds...both starting and stopping...so I have to wonder what the cumulative effects are.
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Old 07-15-2009, 02:19 PM   #110
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Screw em. Why should I drive "faster" to make them more happy. I drive the speed I'm comfortable operating my car at, which is somewhere in between slow and fast. If they were that much in a rush then they can pass me.
A bit narcissistic, eh?
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Old 07-15-2009, 03:33 PM   #111
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You can't please everyone - why is driving any different? Wouldn't it be nice if everyone in front of you did the speed that you wanted them to do... not realistic, so just do what you do -- whatever speed that is -- what difference does it make.
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Old 07-15-2009, 03:40 PM   #112
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You can't please everyone - why is driving any different? Wouldn't it be nice if everyone in front of you did the speed that you wanted them to do... not realistic, so just do what you do -- whatever speed that is -- what difference does it make.
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Old 07-15-2009, 03:45 PM   #113
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K. What does that have to do with anything? No one was talking about maintaining slow speeds on a highway. That's a very stupid thing to do.
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Old 07-15-2009, 03:48 PM   #114
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K. What does that have to do with anything? No one was talking about maintaining slow speeds on a highway. That's a very stupid thing to do.
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Screw em. Why should I drive "faster" to make them more happy. I drive the speed I'm comfortable operating my car at, which is somewhere in between slow and fast. If they were that much in a rush then they can pass me.
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Old 07-15-2009, 03:48 PM   #115
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I also think about some people that will shoot you for cutting them off. I wonder how that type of person will react to me accelerating slowly. So I look behind me to see if there is traffic behind me. Plus I look at the distance between the me and the vehicle ahead. If the distance between me and the vehicle ahead is large, I accelerate faster to close some of the distance. Plus I keep an eye on lights. When I catch up with traffic at the red light, just as the light turns green, then I figure the person behind me has nothing to complain about. Of course if I have a person tailgating, honking the horn, then I will accelerate faster to the legal speed limit. If the driver keeps on tailgating, I ignore the driver behind me.
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I say slow in relative terms, as in what the guy (who feels the need to do 50 in a 35) would think.

And at times I do 55 in the slow lane on I-91. That's the minimum safe speed to drive at on the highway (I can go quote my drivers manual too if you want - I keep it in the glovebox.) Also, the posted speed limit is subject to change due to weather conditions as well. In Massachusetts at least, it is possible to get a ticket for doing the posted speed limit if weather were to permit it -- say a light covering of snow on the ground. Something most people would tend to ignore.
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Old 07-15-2009, 04:49 PM   #117
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I say slow in relative terms, as in what the guy (who feels the need to do 50 in a 35) would think.
I don't drive way below speed limits, but normally am right on whatever the speed limit is. That commonly gets folks right on my bumper (on four lanes) trying to "push" me, then zooming around.
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Which is why I say screw 'em -- especially on a four lane highway. The far right lane is a, "slow moving," lane anyways.
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Old 07-15-2009, 08:30 PM   #119
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I don't drive way below speed limits, but normally am right on whatever the speed limit is. That commonly gets folks right on my bumper (on four lanes) trying to "push" me, then zooming around.
Yeah I drive the speed limit pretty much all the time-but it seems like most others want to do 10-15 over. I accelerate a little slower than most would like too, but certainly not slow to the extreme. I'm used to tailgaiters and they don't bother me much but if someone starts shooting I'll probably speed up.

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Old 07-15-2009, 08:54 PM   #120
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um lets get back to talking about our experiences with the ecometer?
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Old 07-15-2009, 09:04 PM   #121
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Old 07-15-2009, 09:06 PM   #122
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Cool sticker...should come free with an Ecometer. :D
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Old 07-15-2009, 09:08 PM   #123
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Hahahaha, I'd rock it.
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Old 07-15-2009, 10:02 PM   #124
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guys... i got sodium's point in the last page! back to the ecometer! haha.

any recent feedback on the ecometer? more on accuracy talk- tanks vs. "average". if i'm missing something, it seems relatively accurate- accurate to within one or two mpg so far. that's accurate enough for around 70 bucks (for my cheap ass).
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Old 07-15-2009, 10:25 PM   #125
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I can't think of a place I want to mount mine yet. Behind the steering wheel didn't work for me. I kind of want to screw it to the top left corner of the gauge cluster, or on top of the far left air vent. Has any one else come up with a different mounting location?
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Old 07-16-2009, 12:45 AM   #126
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fail on my part... or is it?

why the CAN bus requirement? my car is not listed in the compatible vehicles, nor the entire generation, and i ran into this CAN bus protocol.

in other words, will it work on my 2003 camry, or just the newer cars with the CAN bus OBD port? i'm assuming my car is not CAN bus.

wtf. standard obdII is dying?

edit: fail indeed. doesn't work for my old ass obdII camry. haha. nice talk anyways.
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