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Old 10-30-2011, 12:12 AM   #1
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Yaris in SNOW ... how should you drive?

just came from work, it's 11pm in CT... driving a yaris hatch.
oh boy.... it's hard to drive in a 4-6ins of snow. i know, even a 4x4 will have a hard time in snow mix with rain...
any tips? specially if your yaris is already shifting sideways... (at 5-15mph!)
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Old 10-30-2011, 12:46 AM   #2
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It will be trial and error depending on your tires really.
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Old 10-30-2011, 12:56 AM   #3
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Dedicated snow tires will do wonders. I have a set for my Yaris and the difference is unbelievable.
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Old 10-30-2011, 01:08 AM   #4
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Dedicated snow tires will do wonders. I have a set for my Yaris and the difference is unbelievable.
thanks, snow tires will be good, but snow that are not plow or left behind will really make driving hard! i hope snow tires will really do good on a 6-12in of wet snow.
i hate driving uphill/downhill in CT
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Old 10-30-2011, 05:44 AM   #5
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A manual transmission works wonders. An auto is not as safe. (car doesnt slow down when you let up on the gas as much)

This is my first car with auto trans and antilock brakes. Not a good combination. The car doesnt slow down like a manual and you think the antilocks will stop the car in spite of that.

WRONG!

My advice is to forget you have antilock brakes and pump the brake pedal carefully as you normally would. That is exactly counter to the manufacturers advice (which is slam on the brakes for all they are worth)
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Old 10-30-2011, 10:55 AM   #6
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Our yaris is an auto with no abs. The car was fairly scary on the stock all season tires in ANY amount of snow. We put ContiExtreme Winter tires on it for last season, and that made a HUGE difference. While its still no 4x4, the yaris with snow tires is slightly better in deep snow than my AWD Subaru on brand new all-seasons. I have ABS on my car, and the yaris can definitely out stop me. I can still take it in a straight line from a dead stop though ;)
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Old 10-30-2011, 10:58 AM   #7
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i generally avoid the brakes as much as possible and just coast alot. momentum avoids getting stuck :) Brake slowly and lightly as much as you can.
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Old 10-30-2011, 12:10 PM   #8
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My advice is to forget you have antilock brakes and pump the brake pedal carefully as you normally would. That is exactly counter to the manufacturers advice (which is slam on the brakes for all they are worth)
I agree with this 100 percent, and I've likewise discovered that it's better to just pump the brakes if you find yourself in a slide. This is the first car I've ever driven that has ABS, and I fail to see how it's safer.
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Old 10-30-2011, 07:42 PM   #9
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pedal to the metal bro...there is a snowbank somewhere to stop you ;). but seriously just try and feel the car and give yourself enough room for braking and avoiding obstacles. The Yaris is one of the better cars for winter driving regardless of whether you have winter tires or not (of course if you have dedicated winter tires it does improve even more). I had the Yaris for 4 winters and the little thing did great. Never got stuck and never got away from control. Just remember don't slam on the brakes as the Yaris has the tendency to loose the back end when handled roughly. To avoid being shifted sideways as you say is to be smooth and consistent both with the brakes and the gas. Accelerate gently to avoid spinning the wheels and you will be eating AWD cars with ESC and TCS everytime. I'll never forget the face of some douche in a brand new S class Benz when I passed him effortlessly on a lightly snowed road, he was just sitting there slightly twitching like a cut worm trying to move (his TCS was going crazy didnt know where to apply power), quite an amusing scene.

Acutally if you scan the code in my sig it will take you to my youtube where I have a couple of Yaris winter driving vids.
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Old 10-31-2011, 02:42 AM   #10
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I should probably attach a disclaimer of sorts to this post, but hey, I'm just telling you what works for me.

I find myself reaching for the e-brake (handbrake) when I need to stop when the road is covered with snow/slush. This is especially true when I need to stop suddenly. The ABS system on the Yaris sucks for braking distance (but is great for retaining manouverability though). I mean, when applying the brakes in slippery conditions, I have enough time to read a magazine while the Yaris very slowly loses speed. So when you know you have to stop, there speed is low enough not to lose control of the car and you're up for it, try the e-brake.
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Old 10-31-2011, 07:52 PM   #11
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Oh, I forgot to add....I once read that if you find yourself in a slide, steer in the direction of the slide, and you'll regain control. It sounds counterintuitive, but it really works. This applies to any car, not just the Yaris. And, of course, never panic.
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Old 10-31-2011, 09:45 PM   #12
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Oh, I forgot to add....I once read that if you find yourself in a slide, steer in the direction of the slide, and you'll regain control. It sounds counterintuitive, but it really works. This applies to any car, not just the Yaris. And, of course, never panic.
good advice. this is called countersteering. just DO NOT mash the brakes when you start to slide, as previously noted, the rear end will step out and you will spin.
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Old 11-01-2011, 06:36 AM   #13
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My ECHO on the stock tire was a nightmare in snow. Very twitchy, little traction. They were the Potenza 92s. My Yaris with the exact same tires is quite good.

My advice if you find your car not nice to drive in snow is do a little research on Tire Rack and find a better set of tires.
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Old 11-01-2011, 07:21 AM   #14
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Snow tires. And do everything more slowly than normal. No sudden pushes at any of the pedals, no sudden tweaks to the steering wheel. You're trying not to break anything free from the traction.
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Old 11-01-2011, 11:07 AM   #15
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Oh, I forgot to add....I once read that if you find yourself in a slide, steer in the direction of the slide, and you'll regain control. It sounds counterintuitive, but it really works. This applies to any car, not just the Yaris. And, of course, never panic.
Ha learned this from drifting. Not in a yaris though
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Old 11-01-2011, 11:22 AM   #16
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Yup....snow tires....as the stock tires were and are just that...minimal. Driving an '07 and got Dunlop Graspic 2's year one...and what an amazing difference...so in spring thru fall the stock tires and ..well.....this week on go the snows. Up here in N. Wisconsin i would rather feel save and get safely where I need to be, without doing hail Mary's the whole drive....Spent a bit for the tires, (actually the same amount as my deductible had I a mishap and needed body work) but it was a perfect investment. The wife said she feels like there is more bite into the snow than even our 4x4 Blazer. Now that says something.
The deeper tread, and more pronounced siping and of course the softer tire material
make for a very enjoyable winter. Regular tires get harder the colder it gets.
Standard M&S (mud and snow) tires just can't do all they claim to do.
Last thing here....if you tend to drive alone? I put a sandbag in the foot compartment of the passenger area and that makes a very light car get even more traction. The engine over the front wheel drive can only do so much.
And of course....super tires or not...the lowness to the ground will get you "hung up"
in plowed areas like driveways.....I am surprised my lower front wind guard is still there after plowing my way thru deep snows.
Invest in safety...get snows too...unless you live in the sunbelt where you only have freak storm needs.
Just my thoughts..........
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Old 11-01-2011, 12:27 PM   #17
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under 40 degree tires(thanks BARBER) on all 4 corners make for one hell of a good time if you like to play in the snow. Saturday's snow had me driving on unplowed roads with little to no problems......
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Old 11-01-2011, 12:38 PM   #18
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If your Yaris has ABS, park it and wait for the snow to melt.

My Echo was great in the snow. I would go damn near anywhere and would stopped pretty darn well.

The Yaris goes OK....it just won't stop.
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