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Old 03-22-2015, 02:17 PM   #19
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The instant torque of DC motors is a lot of fun. However, I've been around a couple electric (performance) cars and there are too many issues with them. I also don't like when the car does things without me telling it to (abs, traction control, regenerative braking etc). I just like to know the car is going to do exactly what I tell it to do.
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Old 03-23-2015, 02:24 AM   #20
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Have you considered a 2ZZ-GE?
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Old 03-23-2015, 01:38 PM   #21
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Have you considered a 2ZZ-GE?
Yeah. Was the first one I considered until I looked at the dyno charts. The torque curve is horrible, and up to 5000rpm it's basically the same as what I have now. So either: I constantly rev the nuts off it to enjoy it (killing the engine), or I don't even know it's there. It also needs premium fuel, so again, compares to the S/C 2.0L ecotec which has 200hp,200ft/lbs (60ft/lbs more and basically has 200ft/lbs from 2000rpm+). Even the NA 2.4L would probably beat the 2zzge in a race... on 87octane. A high revving, low torque engine is no fun at all IMO (except for trackdays). I want to put my foot down and go, not foot down and..... waiting.... more rpms...... 6000rpm finally! and immediately shift. Then feel bad because you just revved your daily driver to 8000rpm.

Thanks for the input though.
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Old 03-23-2015, 02:25 PM   #22
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My 2 cents:

factory motors are disigned to run as hard and as long without getting into the redline. The thing that wears a motor out the most is turning the key to start the motor because in that 1-2 seconds, the bearings do not have oil flowing through them at that time. I have been autocrossing my yaris since 2010 when I bought it brand new with 10 miles on it. That same weekend, I put 100 miles on it, threw some R-comp tires on it and started autocrossing. Since then, I have autocrossed at least once a month, 4 track days and its still my daily driver that I just clocked in at 73k miles on it.

You can run that 2zz all day long just below redline and should not have an issue.

But i do understand what you are looking for in a motor. In the end, it is your car, it is your money, all you can do is gather as much information about what your goals are and run with it..

Good luck, whatever you do, it will be awesome!
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Old 03-25-2015, 12:24 AM   #23
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K20a3 from the base rsx, they're cheap and abundant. 160 hp and 140 torque would be fun. I've seen these motors and trans go for about $800-$1200. Maybe you won't even need the trans if you can build an adapter and make it work.

Or if you feel like spending an extra $4000 do the K20a
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Old 04-24-2015, 05:45 PM   #24
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I would love to see someone do a 2gr-fe swap. 270whp baseline with a ton of torque. If someone stuffed a 3g in then the 2gr should go with work.
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Old 04-24-2015, 10:14 PM   #25
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I would love to see someone do a 2gr-fe swap. 270whp baseline with a ton of torque.
That's because you land-speed guys don't care about cornering
Not sure what that weighs, but knowing Toyota... probably a lot.
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Old 04-24-2015, 10:17 PM   #26
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If you run a proper suspension setup it should be a non issue. Also can't be too much more weight than a 2zz.
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Old 10-09-2015, 12:17 AM   #27
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it's too bad you don't like turbo. if you want maximum power with minimum weight i'd go with a 13b. it'd be hard to do fwd, but if you did a awd matrix rear end and a custom driveshaft you can do however much power you wanted....reliable 700hp yaris would be sweet
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