Drifting?

[eflb55]

i kinda want to see if my yaris can drift. i have no idea how to do this or what requirements are needed in a car to do so. I don't plan on using it for races or anything just want to learn how to drift. So any help on the topic would be appreciated. By the way, I have a sedan automatic.

[esquiva]

ur car should be m/t, rear wheel drive, have limited slip differential..and a lowered suspension

[StanIV]

...so in other words...NO, you can not drift with a yaris.

[jmew0ng]

get some lunch trays and put them on the rear wheels hahaha
Then you can have some power sliding fun ^^ for like 30 seconds

[07WYarisRS]

You can't even power slide

Power slide is just like a drift, it means you are applying power to the wheels to start and control the slide. You need a rear wheel drive or AWD for that.
With a FWD car about all you can do is lock up the rear with the parking brake/ebrake to break the ass end loose and whip it around a bit but you can't really control a drift with FWD cars

[EnduroMTS]

HAHAH This has to be the most common sense question.. hate to laugh but just had to LOL . real drift cars are RWD, maybe AWD, but never a FWD... with a yaris good luck!

[eTiMaGo]

I do dream of making an ultimate crazy Yaris with a midship-mounted engine and rear wheel drive... maybe use the engine, transmission and suspension from an MR2... now that would be something amazing...

[07WYarisRS]

I would gut the rear of the car and go with the rear wheel drive but use a GSXR-1 or 1100 engine.
That would be fun ans sound sweet.
I've seen a few smarties with this set up.

[eTiMaGo]

Hmm yeah that could be done too, I used to be quite a nut about classic mini coopers (and still have a special place in my heart for them), and seen quite a few of those done up... But woudn't the yaris frame, even if stripped down, still weigh a substantial weight, that a motorcycle engine would struggle against?

[hhcchen]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kOuZp6MflE

[firefly1_0]

wait for it to snow.

drive car through a corner.

pull sideways stick right before apex of turn.

smile for the camera.

if done right, you can have fun with this, but ass dragging should never be called drifting.

[07WYarisRS]

Hmm yeah that could be done too, I used to be quite a nut about classic mini coopers (and still have a special place in my heart for them), and seen quite a few of those done up... But woudn't the yaris frame, even if stripped down, still weigh a substantial weight, that a motorcycle engine would struggle against?

Yeah but the GSXR engine can easily push 200hp

RWD and an extra 100HP over stock.
it's wont have much torque but the powerband will be awesome.

[eTiMaGo]

hmmmm true... another very tempting possibility... but the drivetrain, suspension and pretty much everything else would need to be custom fabricated, that would be quite a challenge!

[firefly1_0]

i have seen guys take the 1.3L DOHC engine from a Suzuki Swift GT and run that in the old Mini Coopers...

that engine with quad carbs or ITB's and it barks like a dog.

[eTiMaGo]

honda 1.6 VTEC engines can be fitted in those too, in the front... now that's some pretty crazy stuff... But MR is where the fun's at :wink:

[Katana]

FWD=Wrong Wheel Drive...

[eflb55]

ok so is my yaris, american sedan, a front or rear wheel drive? and regardless of whether i can "ass drag" or not, can i drift and how, detailed please.

[firefly1_0]

its front wheel drive.

and as stated before... for a FWD

wait for it to snow.

drive car through a corner.

pull sideways stick right before apex of turn.

for RWD (the very abreviated way...)

drifting is making the rear wheels brake loose which will then cause oversteer (like fish tailing, but only to one side)

perform corrective steering by turning the steering wheel in the opposite direction of the fish tail.

controlling it all with throttle, brakes and steering adjustments to keep the car sideways.

[07WYarisRS]

ok so is my yaris, american sedan, a front or rear wheel drive? and regardless of whether i can "ass drag" or not, can i drift and how, detailed please.

If you don't even know if your car is front wheel, rear wheel or awd or the very most basics on drifting don't even try it let alone in a FWD car.
You will crash or roll your car. And YEs it is VERY easy to flip your car drifting.

Drifting means all 4 wheels are sliding in a controled slide.
This takes speed, HP and good hadling, something the Yaris does not have...
To really drift and control it while accelerating you need rear wheel drive or allwheel drive, something the yaris also does not have.

The ONLY way you are going to drift a FWD car is coming into a turn very hard and very fast, set up and brake for a bit of oversteer and continue to steer into it until the rear end has started to come around. At this time you counter steer and maintain the momentum keeping the rear wheels loose and then slide it around a corner. Often you will need to use the e-brake to help break the rear wheels loose. But most new driver or drivers with no experiance tend to let the rear end come around too much and they either wipe out or the car hooks up and flips over.

But again if you have that little of driving skills don't even try to do it on pavement.
If you mess up even a little this is what happens

http://youtube.com/watch?v=9CpujJDW9nY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bu5vY5-ubaA&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMrJjBhxI3c&mode=related&search=

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/50877/nissan_s15_hks_drifting_crash/

[yuiedie]

hmmm, maybe not drifting, but how about auto x?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itmmnbWYVQo

looks like fun!

[Ran Kizama]

hmmm, maybe not drifting, but how about auto x?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itmmnbWYVQo

looks like fun!E-Brake FTW!! :laughabove:

[Katana]

Cool links!

[03Z33]

That's not autocross :rolleyes: It's gymkhana :wink: BIG difference! :biggrin:
That video is from the Yokota air force base in Tokyo, my friends used to run there all the time.

The 1.3l Vitz is available with AWD in Asia... if the drivetrain fits the 1.5l that would be the easiest way to convert to RWD :thumbsup:

[eTiMaGo]

hey yeah that's a pretty cool idea actually! Combine that with an engine swap to a 1.8 or 2L engine, and it would be a BEAST!

[Sideways]

There is one Yaris that can drift, it has been converted to RWD and powered by a 2.7L Tacoma engine. :eek:

http://www.scionlife.com/gallery/events2006/1074_256.jpg

[the_saint]

There is one Yaris that can drift, it has been converted to RWD and powered by a 2.7L Tacoma engine. :eek:

Really?
I'll believe it when I see detailed pics and video!

[ChinoCharles]

There is one Yaris that can drift, it has been converted to RWD and powered by a 2.7L Tacoma engine. :eek:

http://www.scionlife.com/gallery/events2006/1074_256.jpg

NUMBERS! PICTURES! ANYTHING!

[Ran Kizama]

If you don't even know if your car is front wheel, rear wheel or awd or the very most basics on drifting don't even try it let alone in a FWD car.
You will crash or roll your car. And YEs it is VERY easy to flip your car drifting.Agreed. Save your Yaris and go buy a RWD junker to learn on. 240SX's can be found for around $1500 and are great learner cars. They're essentially the drifter's Civic since everybody has one. For around the same price you can also look for old Toyota Cressida's, BMW 3-Series, Mazda RX-7's or Miatas.

[ChinoCharles]

I lose the rear end of the Yaris all the damn time. It drives me crazy. 50% of the time I will take a corner hard and it will stay nice and flat. The thing that surprises me the most is the amount of tire squeal. I can take a left turn across a two-lane road at 45 MPH with little to no squeal... pretty impressive. However, if there is any (and I mean any) moisture on the ground, back end comes around and I'm countersteering and steadying the throttle.

[Yaris Revenge]

ok so is my yaris, american sedan, a front or rear wheel drive? and regardless of whether i can "ass drag" or not, can i drift and how, detailed please.

Oooh my goodness. Please post here and let us know before you get behind the wheel, so we can hide indoors!

No mo-ah "Fasta and Fyoo-ias" fo-ah you! You go home now!

I'm just kiddin' you, of course. :wink: I make fun of my wife all the time for not knowing how many cylinders her truck has (even after I've told her a dozen times).

~YR

[ChinoCharles]

No mo-ah "Fasta and Fyoo-ias" fo-ah you! You go home now!

HAH!

I think I peed a little bit on that one. wooooo

[Sideways]

Really?
I'll believe it when I see detailed pics and video!


Here are a couple pictures from mid September. We are currently working on completing the brake system and upgrading the engine.

http://www.mospeed.com/sidewaysyaris/Yaris103.jpg
http://www.mospeed.com/sidewaysyaris/Yaris106.jpg

[eTiMaGo]

two words:

holy, and crap

oh and one more: respect!

[03Z33]

http://www.scionlife.com/gallery/events2006/1074_257.jpg

http://www.scionlife.com/gallery/events2006/1074_258.jpg

[the_saint]

wow....you guys really are working on a RWD Yaris. Please excuse my skepticism, but this is the internet.

I can't wait to see video of an actual drifitng yaris. :biggrin:

[quadoptix]

there will be video's up when it's ready. It's a project thats only been worked on a total of 18 days. It's seen great progress so far. Sideways..is that you graham? or dave? haha its mike.

[spkrman]

I lose the rear end of the Yaris all the damn time. It drives me crazy. 50% of the time I will take a corner hard and it will stay nice and flat. The thing that surprises me the most is the amount of tire squeal. I can take a left turn across a two-lane road at 45 MPH with little to no squeal... pretty impressive. However, if there is any (and I mean any) moisture on the ground, back end comes around and I'm countersteering and steadying the throttle.

yep, once they squeal your rear end is on its way out lol... i'd rather have a little squeal to let me know exactly when to back off.

[captainzerocool]

wow....you guys really are working on a RWD Yaris. Please excuse my skepticism, but this is the internet.

I can't wait to see video of an actual drifitng yaris. :biggrin:


:laughabove: HAHA!

I immediately thought of this...

http://playingwithfire.org/images/dontworry.jpg

[spkrman]

:laughabove: HAHA!

I immediately thought of this...

http://playingwithfire.org/images/dontworry.jpg

i feel safer already.

[Tamago]

Yeah but the GSXR engine can easily push 200hp

RWD and an extra 100HP over stock.
it's wont have much torque but the powerband will be awesome.


torque is what moves the car, horsepower is just a byproduct of torque and rpm

[ddongbap]

I love the guy who said drifting requires all 4 wheels to be sliding.

If there is a will, there is a way.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WgZ5YhfaCI

[Tamago]

yeah, my fail ass is looking for pix of the drift yaris with the tacoma engine. anyone have a link handy?

[ddongbap]

THeres one on page2.

Or page1.

[supmet]

You will crash or roll your car. And YEs it is VERY easy to flip your car drifting.

If you roll the yaris, you either hit a curb, tried drifting at 100 mph, or you have wider tires than actually will fit on the back. The yaris is designed to slide out, not flip. Thousands of sixteen year old kids hand brake turn their cheap FWD economy cars every day, and only the ones dumb enough to hit the curb flip. I suppose you might be able to flip if you drift on reverse banked turn too, but then you fall into the dumb category again. But if you have a wide open parking lot, and you aren't gonna hit anything, spin that bad boy like there's no tomorrow. Learn what your car will do when you turn the wheel all the way at 50 mph.

To everyone else. Drifting, as defined by doing fancy spins and making lots of smoke, is done best in a RWD car, yes. Drifting, as defined by breaking your tires loose, keeping your drive wheels spinning, and attaining a hire exit speed than you could by keeping all tires on the ground, is possible in FWD, RWD, and AWD.

I'm trying to be gentle on the yaris(sort of) but I've done 360s, reverse 180s, "ass dragging"(call it what you want, I'll still come out of the turn faster than you), and all sorts of fun stuff in an assortment of FWD cars.

[ChinoCharles]

Thousands of sixteen year old kids hand brake turn their cheap FWD economy cars every day, and only the ones dumb enough to hit the curb flip


Hey jerk, I'm not 16. :laugh:

[ddongbap]

I also laugh at the person who says drifting is easy to flip. Drift cars are designed to slide. NOT FLIP. Flipping is because of another force acting opposite of the drifting.

[Tamago]

THeres one on page2.

Or page1.


i want more details. who can i speak to about this?

[ddongbap]

i want more details. who can i speak to about this?

Oh my bad, I thought you were just looking for pictures. I didn't know you were looking for info.

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3096907

[ChinoCharles]

Tamago, Google will set you free.

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3096907

[ddongbap]

Tamago, Google will set you free.

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3096907

I win, you yOUUu

[ChinoCharles]

Aw, you bitch.

[yak]

I know this is an old thread but it is possible to drift a yaris....
Jump hard on the gas on a corner and lift at the apex
weight transfer is what causes the rear to swing out
NOT for public roads people !

[magicman_841]

All you need is a little snow.