Liftback - Easiest Way to Get a Tach and Cruise Control... - Toyota Yaris Forums

weeze-dog · 06-19-2006, 09:33 PM

Just fill this out and let Toyota know how annoyed we are. They need our feedback, if we don't demand it, they won't give it to us.
Personally, I'm not going to buy a liftback until they give the 5-speed a factory tach, and the fact that every other country gets a tach just bugs the hell out of me. On a brand new car, you shouldn't have to speed a bunch of money on aftermarket options that should be available on EVERY new car in this country.
If we let them know what we want, it we may get it on the 2008 models.
Please take a few minutes to give toyota a little piece of your mind about the lack of a tach and cruise control in the liftbback. Thanks.

Your Opinion Counts, Let Toyota Know!

TRD_Yaris · 06-20-2006, 02:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weeze-dog

Just fill this out and let Toyota know how annoyed we are. They need our feedback, if we don't demand it, they won't give it to us.
Personally, I'm not going to buy a liftback until they give the 5-speed a factory tach, and the fact that every other country gets a tach just bugs the hell out of me. On a brand new car, you shouldn't have to speed a bunch of money on aftermarket options that should be available on EVERY new car in this country.
If we let them know what we want, it we may get it on the 2008 models.
Please take a few minutes to give toyota a little piece of your mind about the lack of a tach and cruise control in the liftbback. Thanks.

Your Opinion Counts, Let Toyota Know!

Yeah, i wanna know what moron decided that every Toyota liftback should come without a Tachometer..but a mandatory "Convenience" package that includes nothing convenient to most consumers (steel wheels instead of steel wheels?? cheap CD/MP3 player, and a rear wiper i will NEVER use!?!?). "Convenience" woud be Cruise Control and the ability to monitor my engine speed!!!

*Chris07LB* · 06-20-2006, 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by TRD_Yaris

"Convenience" woud be Cruise Control and the ability to monitor my engine speed!!!

AMEN!!!!

jedi1701 · 06-20-2006, 08:07 AM

I ageee with all of this but I also have to put in my 2 cents, well maybe 3,

I know I will get hell from this but , I don't find the lack of a tach or cruise control a bad thing , What made me buy this car in the first place is the back to basic type of setup. I owned alot of VW bugs from a 1960 to a 1973 and none of them ever had cruise or a tach as an option when they were new.

Don't get me wrong I am not ready to bring back 8 tracks or anything like that but I think we are alittle spoiled. Maybe we are just not ready to go back to the basics and maybe we never will be.

I am sorry but I really love this little car just the way it is.

weeze-dog · 06-20-2006, 08:52 AM

Well what bugs me is that the US is the only country in the world to not get a freakin tach in the cluster. Again we get the shaft when it comes to cars. We have hardly any choices when it comes to small, versitle cars, especially hatchbacks. Some of us american don't want giant SUV's or huge sedans. And when they do give us a good small car, they screw us on options.
Oh you want a 5-speed w/Power Package, thats only available on the 2nd Tuesday of the 3rd month of the year...and only in Idaho...

It's just annoying how you can get some things, and not other basic options like a TACH and cruise. But of course they come on the sedan model. Just make you want to say DEE DEE DEE.

argylesocks · 09-07-2006, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jedi1701

I ageee with all of this but I also have to put in my 2 cents, well maybe 3,

I know I will get hell from this but , I don't find the lack of a tach or cruise control a bad thing , What made me buy this car in the first place is the back to basic type of setup. I owned alot of VW bugs from a 1960 to a 1973 and none of them ever had cruise or a tach as an option when they were new.

Don't get me wrong I am not ready to bring back 8 tracks or anything like that but I think we are alittle spoiled. Maybe we are just not ready to go back to the basics and maybe we never will be.

I am sorry but I really love this little car just the way it is.

agree 100%. this aint a race car. its an econo-car. really no need for a tach. if you driving it hard enough that you need to know where redline is, then you bought the wrong car.

jedi1701 · 06-21-2006, 06:44 AM

I don't know about anyone else but I have owned alot of manuals in the past and driving this Yaris 5 speed without a tach is a piece of cake. You don't need a tach to get good gas mileage , you can feel when it's the right time to shift,you get use to when it's time to shift and you can use the spedo to tell , it's not rocket science.

I always short shift alittle (I don't like pushing the rev's up to much) and this car shifts like a dream. "Close your eye's and Use the force"

boxerboy · 06-21-2006, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jedi1701

I don't know about anyone else but I have owned alot of manuals in the past and driving this Yaris 5 speed without a tach is a piece of cake. You don't need a tach to get good gas mileage , you can feel when it's the right time to shift,you get use to when it's time to shift and you can use the spedo to tell , it's not rocket science.

I always short shift alittle (I don't like pushing the rev's up to much) and this car shifts like a dream. "Close your eye's and Use the force"

I agree with you. I bought the Yaris because it gets good gas mileage. I don't have to drive it different to get it. I drive with the flow of traffic.

pennystocks · 06-22-2006, 03:59 AM

I have cruise and a tach

Kinda glad i dont like hatch backs

TenTwelve · 06-28-2006, 04:55 PM

So, the Sedan custer will not work in the hatch? I registered to find this out specifically since I'm looking at the hatch and I too am quite disappointed in the "no tach" cluster.

weeze-dog · 06-28-2006, 08:09 PM

apparantly not, a user was told that the connectors are different on the sedan cluster. Plus if you look at the sedan and liftback, the dash trim around the cluster does not appear to be the same shape in both models so the cluster may not even fit.

fred812 · 06-29-2006, 11:07 AM

I liked that link it takes you right to toyota, It didnt look like a link so here it is again from weeze-dog http://toyota.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/t...nduser/ask.php I want my 2008 to have it all!
F

TrancosRt · 09-07-2006, 07:54 PM

I've been always driving manual without a tach, so I don't have much of problem. It would have been nice, but nothing I can do now since I have the car already, right?

Billstein · 09-07-2006, 10:01 PM

I asked when they were going to relese the Yaris D4 in the U.S.

Pars · 09-07-2006, 11:13 PM

If the Yaris can't handle being redlined, and the redline is just for show, why bother buying a Toyota? when I know the Honda engine is quite at home at high rpms and can still return the same fuel efficiency.

My last car was a 98 Civic. Bought it new for $14K CAD and it had a Tachometer. The car got redlined on a regular basis and would stay above 5000rpm to redline for extended period. Considering that the 98 Civic was able to handle 300,000km of extreme driving without any problems, I'd like to think that my 07 Yaris is just as capable.

I just don't understand how any Manual driver, who knows how to get the most out of an engine, can say that a Tachometer is not necessary. If the excuse is that engine can't handle it, I'm reluctant to believe that since I think Toyota's engine is just as good as Honda.

Also, a tachometer isn't just useful for aggressive driving, it can also be a saftey feature. In the sense that it promotes downshifting. In my case, if I percieve a difficult situation up ahead on the road, the first thing I'd do is downshift while maintaining the speed. That way, I'm already on tap for better braking or acceleration. Granted, you could still downshift without a tachometer, but how much? You realy need to be above 4000rpm for it to matter, so is that 2 or 3 gears down? If you don't know..then you probably don't have a tachometer, or you wouldn't even know what do with it if you had one.

How about fuel economy? The way to get good economy is to keep the rpms as low as possible (without straining the engine). So, how are you going to do that if you don't even know what rpm you're in? Or if you want to rev-match because you've been coasting in neutral, it's not going to be smooth unless you know your rpm.

I probably could write a book about the advantage of manual transmission over automatic, but without a tachometer, you might as well be driving the stupid automatic.

argylesocks · 09-08-2006, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Pars

Also, a tachometer isn't just useful for aggressive driving, it can also be a saftey feature. In the sense that it promotes downshifting. In my case, if I percieve a difficult situation up ahead on the road, the first thing I'd do is downshift while maintaining the speed. That way, I'm already on tap for better braking or acceleration. Granted, you could still downshift without a tachometer, but how much? You realy need to be above 4000rpm for it to matter, so is that 2 or 3 gears down? If you don't know..then you probably don't have a tachometer, or you wouldn't even know what do with it if you had one.

How about fuel economy? The way to get good economy is to keep the rpms as low as possible (without straining the engine). So, how are you going to do that if you don't even know what rpm you're in? Or if you want to rev-match because you've been coasting in neutral, it's not going to be smooth unless you know your rpm.:

i have always had a tach...and i have NO PROBLEM knowing when to shift (up or down) in the Yaris. While i cant tell you the exact RPM of my engine at any given time, i certainly know approximately where it is, and when it would be better to shift. You dont need a tach to know you are winding out your engine...

would i rather have a tach? yeah sure. does it matter to me on THIS car? no, not really. im certainly not going to go all fast & furious, and put one on my A-pillar.

Pars · 09-08-2006, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by argylesocks

i have always had a tach...and i have NO PROBLEM knowing when to shift (up or down) in the Yaris. While i cant tell you the exact RPM of my engine at any given time, i certainly know approximately where it is, and when it would be better to shift. You dont need a tach to know you are winding out your engine...

would i rather have a tach? yeah sure. does it matter to me on THIS car? no, not really. im certainly not going to go all fast & furious, and put one on my A-pillar.

I've always had a tach and 60% of time (when I'm cruising and not paying attention to my driving) I don't use it. Even then, occationaly, I'll need the tach, cause when I tune back in to check on the engine, a quick look at the tach gives me all the info I need.

I suppose you might be a more attentive driver then myself, especially when I'm in la-la land, but when things starts to go on the boil, the tach is a very useful tool. And, the "this kind of car" comment has no basis, because the other kind of car (probably something design for the race track) would be too fast for the streets to require the use of a Tachometer.

Billstein · 10-20-2006, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Billstein

I asked when they were going to relese the Yaris D4 in the U.S.

There responce; No time in the near future.
I need to import from canada I guess.
I wonder if the Yaris D4 is in canada?
Anybody Know?

Thanks

06-19-2006, 09:33 PM	#1
weeze-dog Drives: 2002 Ford Focus ZX3 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 57	Liftback - Easiest Way to Get a Tach and Cruise Control... Just fill this out and let Toyota know how annoyed we are. They need our feedback, if we don't demand it, they won't give it to us. Personally, I'm not going to buy a liftback until they give the 5-speed a factory tach, and the fact that every other country gets a tach just bugs the hell out of me. On a brand new car, you shouldn't have to speed a bunch of money on aftermarket options that should be available on EVERY new car in this country. If we let them know what we want, it we may get it on the 2008 models. Please take a few minutes to give toyota a little piece of your mind about the lack of a tach and cruise control in the liftbback. Thanks. Your Opinion Counts, Let Toyota Know!

09-07-2006, 10:01 PM	#14
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09-07-2006, 11:13 PM	#15
Pars Drives: 07 Yaris Liftback Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Toronto Posts: 418	If the Yaris can't handle being redlined, and the redline is just for show, why bother buying a Toyota? when I know the Honda engine is quite at home at high rpms and can still return the same fuel efficiency. My last car was a 98 Civic. Bought it new for $14K CAD and it had a Tachometer. The car got redlined on a regular basis and would stay above 5000rpm to redline for extended period. Considering that the 98 Civic was able to handle 300,000km of extreme driving without any problems, I'd like to think that my 07 Yaris is just as capable. I just don't understand how any Manual driver, who knows how to get the most out of an engine, can say that a Tachometer is not necessary. If the excuse is that engine can't handle it, I'm reluctant to believe that since I think Toyota's engine is just as good as Honda. Also, a tachometer isn't just useful for aggressive driving, it can also be a saftey feature. In the sense that it promotes downshifting. In my case, if I percieve a difficult situation up ahead on the road, the first thing I'd do is downshift while maintaining the speed. That way, I'm already on tap for better braking or acceleration. Granted, you could still downshift without a tachometer, but how much? You realy need to be above 4000rpm for it to matter, so is that 2 or 3 gears down? If you don't know..then you probably don't have a tachometer, or you wouldn't even know what do with it if you had one. How about fuel economy? The way to get good economy is to keep the rpms as low as possible (without straining the engine). So, how are you going to do that if you don't even know what rpm you're in? Or if you want to rev-match because you've been coasting in neutral, it's not going to be smooth unless you know your rpm. I probably could write a book about the advantage of manual transmission over automatic, but without a tachometer, you might as well be driving the stupid automatic. Last edited by Pars; 09-07-2006 at 11:29 PM.

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06-20-2006, 08:07 AM	#4
jedi1701 Drives: Yaris 2 LB Join Date: May 2006 Location: NY Posts: 11	I ageee with all of this but I also have to put in my 2 cents, well maybe 3, I know I will get hell from this but , I don't find the lack of a tach or cruise control a bad thing , What made me buy this car in the first place is the back to basic type of setup. I owned alot of VW bugs from a 1960 to a 1973 and none of them ever had cruise or a tach as an option when they were new. Don't get me wrong I am not ready to bring back 8 tracks or anything like that but I think we are alittle spoiled. Maybe we are just not ready to go back to the basics and maybe we never will be. I am sorry but I really love this little car just the way it is.

06-20-2006, 08:52 AM	#5
weeze-dog Drives: 2002 Ford Focus ZX3 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 57	Well what bugs me is that the US is the only country in the world to not get a freakin tach in the cluster. Again we get the shaft when it comes to cars. We have hardly any choices when it comes to small, versitle cars, especially hatchbacks. Some of us american don't want giant SUV's or huge sedans. And when they do give us a good small car, they screw us on options. Oh you want a 5-speed w/Power Package, thats only available on the 2nd Tuesday of the 3rd month of the year...and only in Idaho... It's just annoying how you can get some things, and not other basic options like a TACH and cruise. But of course they come on the sedan model. Just make you want to say DEE DEE DEE.

06-21-2006, 06:44 AM	#7
jedi1701 Drives: Yaris 2 LB Join Date: May 2006 Location: NY Posts: 11	I don't know about anyone else but I have owned alot of manuals in the past and driving this Yaris 5 speed without a tach is a piece of cake. You don't need a tach to get good gas mileage , you can feel when it's the right time to shift,you get use to when it's time to shift and you can use the spedo to tell , it's not rocket science. I always short shift alittle (I don't like pushing the rev's up to much) and this car shifts like a dream. "Close your eye's and Use the force"

06-22-2006, 03:59 AM	#9
pennystocks View User's Garage Drives: 07 Civic Si Coupe(Black Pearl) Join Date: May 2006 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 159	I have cruise and a tach Kinda glad i dont like hatch backs

06-28-2006, 04:55 PM	#10
TenTwelve I've made a post! Drives: No Yaris yet Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 1	So, the Sedan custer will not work in the hatch? I registered to find this out specifically since I'm looking at the hatch and I too am quite disappointed in the "no tach" cluster.

06-28-2006, 08:09 PM	#11
weeze-dog Drives: 2002 Ford Focus ZX3 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 57	apparantly not, a user was told that the connectors are different on the sedan cluster. Plus if you look at the sedan and liftback, the dash trim around the cluster does not appear to be the same shape in both models so the cluster may not even fit.

06-29-2006, 11:07 AM	#12
fred812 Authorized User Drives: 2007 5 spd Hatch White Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: pa Posts: 117	I liked that link it takes you right to toyota, It didnt look like a link so here it is again from weeze-dog http://toyota.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/t...nduser/ask.php I want my 2008 to have it all! F

09-07-2006, 07:54 PM	#13
TrancosRt View User's Garage Drives: 07 Silver HB Yaris Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: S Florida Posts: 289	I've been always driving manual without a tach, so I don't have much of problem. It would have been nice, but nothing I can do now since I have the car already, right?