TRD OR Eibach...i'm confused... - Toyota Yaris Forums

hoahmaru · 04-28-2006, 07:33 PM

This is a question for those who have installed Toyota factory lowering springs....

Are the lowering springs offered by toyota from Eibach or TRD? I was talking to the salesguy today in the accessories department at toyota and he told me their the same. He said Eibach is the manufacturer and TRD is just the label name. I have read on some of the thread here that the lowering springs that people are getting at the toyota factory are Eibach springs and not TRD springs. For me I really like the look of the factory lowering springs that people are getting, I just wanted to make sure that I'am getting the right springs from the dealership. So for example, if I wanted those Eibach springs do I ask them for it or are the TRD springs the Eibach springs????

Sorry to make this kind of confusing...I just want to make sure that I'am getting the right product if I'am gonna pay $600 bucks for it.

Goose · 04-28-2006, 10:22 PM

I don't own the springs, but maybe I can help you out.

Eibach is a major spring manufacturer, supplying springs for many OEM's - from truck manufacturers to Formula One teams. TRD is the brand name for Toyota's performance division, like Honda's Mugen and Nissan's Nismo.

It is very possible that TRD's springs are made by Eibach to TRD's specs - which are then branded as TRD springs. This situation is probably true for the TRD struts as well; I can only guess, but I'll bet Tokico or Showa manufacture TRD's struts to their specs and then TRD brands 'em.

If you go to an official Toyota Dealer and ask for TRD parts, you should be okay. To be really sure, you could always ask to see the box before they install 'em.

riceboy · 04-28-2006, 11:13 PM

There's nothing to indicate the spring manufacturer on the box, it's just a plain corrugated cardboard box. From my understanding they are Eibach's branded to be used for Toyota. No big deal, it's common practice for a lot of accessories to be manufactured by third parties and then rebranded as OEM or OEM performance parts. It's just a matter of buying from the dealer gives you the peace of mind that you have someone to go back to in case anything goes wrong. In my experience Toyota will stand behind the products and look after you, whereas some private shops forget that you even exist after you get the install done, let alone look after you should something go wrong with a part or install that you've paid for. In any case, I think I've said it in another thread but I highly recommend the Toyota lowering springs, they really help to make the car sit properly from both a esthetic and a performance point of view. At the same time it's nothing too aggressive and won't make you cringe anytime you go over a pothole or railway tracks or speed bumps, or etc.

echo_hrs · 04-29-2006, 03:25 PM

My dealer installed springs came with Eibach Pro-Kit documentation in that plain corrugated box...

Idjiit · 04-29-2006, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jah

I am looking for the springs and TRD shocks, looks like they aren't in North America yet :(

My dealer indicated that they won't be available "until Summer" - my sales guy will be giving me a call when they come in.

Idjiit · 05-01-2006, 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jah

Here is the Toyota Yaris Lowering Springs only in the states for $155 US:
http://www.toyotapartsstore.com/prod...0bd21982a9a36c

I am looking for the springs and TRD shocks, looks like they aren't in North America yet :(

Unfortunately these guys don't have a valid SSL certificate, so I won't be buying from them. Bummer, I was just about to buy the lowering springs.

C2AUTOSPL · 05-02-2006, 12:13 AM

TRD springs = Eibach springs

SmellyTofu · 05-02-2006, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by C2AUTOSPL

TRD springs = Eibach springs

Wrong.. TRD <> Eibach springs.

ricko · 05-03-2006, 10:20 AM

I can confirm Echo's post, that the TRD lowering springs offered at Canadian Toyota Dealers come with Eibach Pro Kit documentation. This is in fact not unusual (that these TRD springs are made by Eibach), Nike for example does not actually manufacture anything.

why? · 05-03-2006, 04:42 PM

rofl, most brand names you see don't make the product's you;d think of when you hear their name.

Singer subcontracts all their sowing machines out, they actually make computer chips now, lol.

SmellyTofu · 05-03-2006, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ricko

I can confirm Echo's post, that the TRD lowering springs offered at Canadian Toyota Dealers come with Eibach Pro Kit documentation. This is in fact not unusual (that these TRD springs are made by Eibach), Nike for example does not actually manufacture anything.

Correct. However, you'll find it might be co-incidence to know that the TRD springs have the same spring rate as Eibach but each company test them to suit their satisfactory level.

ricko · 05-03-2006, 11:16 PM

Makes sense, since each offers a warranty.

Idjiit · 05-05-2006, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jah

The red spoiler I ordered showed up today

Glad to hear it. Unfortunately I've been the victim of fraud twice, so I'm understandly protective of my info.

why? · 05-15-2006, 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigsky2

This thread's question has probably already received confirmation already, but I just wanted to add that the springs are indeed Eibach springs.

The documentation with the springs were Eibach printed, and it came with a cheesy sticker too (RICE ON!).

ROFL.

ROCKLAND TOYOTA · 05-27-2006, 02:27 PM

TRD SPRINGS will cost you $160.00 american plus shipping

JDMVitz · 06-23-2006, 01:14 PM

I found on the internet the part no. for hatchback lowering spring. It doesn't say if is TRD or not...

Part #: PTR04-52060

Is this the TRD lowering springs? If not, where can i find it?

Moura · 11-05-2008, 11:56 PM

Sorry to dig this up, but it will be my next mod. And I just knew about this a few days ago.

I have a friend that works in Toyota here in Portugal, and he said that the springs are Eibach.

So for me, there is no point in buying TRD (TTE) springs, you know why? Because in Europe everything is fuc**** expensive. They charge us 370$ (290€) for TRD springs.

Eibach springs (the same ones I guess) will cost me about 230$ (180€).

One thing it makes me confuse, is that Toyota says the TRD lowers -30mm, but Eibach says the pro-kit will lower -25mm

YarisSedan · 11-06-2008, 01:11 AM

Just so you know no dealer toyota honda etc manufacture thier own parts. They sublet it to a company and they make it and then they stick thier label on it. For example honda usses a lot of nissin parts. And it says honda on the box. But occasionally on the part you can see the stamp nissan. Infact if they havve problems with brake pads they will switch to a different brand. So you could buy 2 boxes of brake pads for the same car but a few years later it would be a different type cause they found out this other brand has less combacks.

I had a customer in my shop once that didnt belive me they wanted only OEM parts. So i orderd a master cylinder from napa auto parts and a master cylinder from worldpack which is a oem cylinder that says honda all over th ebox. ANd took them both out. Identical in every way and both said nissin on them. Just one napa put thier name on and one honda put thiers on. So i told the customer if you want you can have this one because it comes with a pretty box but its 30 percent more expensive. I warrenty both parts for 1 year reguardless

04-28-2006, 07:33 PM	#1
hoahmaru Drives: 2007 White Yaris RS B Pac. Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Calgary AB. Posts: 122	TRD OR Eibach...i'm confused... This is a question for those who have installed Toyota factory lowering springs.... Are the lowering springs offered by toyota from Eibach or TRD? I was talking to the salesguy today in the accessories department at toyota and he told me their the same. He said Eibach is the manufacturer and TRD is just the label name. I have read on some of the thread here that the lowering springs that people are getting at the toyota factory are Eibach springs and not TRD springs. For me I really like the look of the factory lowering springs that people are getting, I just wanted to make sure that I'am getting the right springs from the dealership. So for example, if I wanted those Eibach springs do I ask them for it or are the TRD springs the Eibach springs???? Sorry to make this kind of confusing...I just want to make sure that I'am getting the right product if I'am gonna pay $600 bucks for it. __________________ -H-O-A-H-M-A-R-U-

04-28-2006, 10:22 PM	#2
Goose Car Geek Drives: Yaris Liftback Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Ohio cornfields Posts: 213	I don't own the springs, but maybe I can help you out. Eibach is a major spring manufacturer, supplying springs for many OEM's - from truck manufacturers to Formula One teams. TRD is the brand name for Toyota's performance division, like Honda's Mugen and Nissan's Nismo. It is very possible that TRD's springs are made by Eibach to TRD's specs - which are then branded as TRD springs. This situation is probably true for the TRD struts as well; I can only guess, but I'll bet Tokico or Showa manufacture TRD's struts to their specs and then TRD brands 'em. If you go to an official Toyota Dealer and ask for TRD parts, you should be okay. To be really sure, you could always ask to see the box before they install 'em. __________________ Kevin '07 Blazing Blue 5-speed liftback (sold) '08 Black auto liftback (sold) '09 Carmine Red auto 4-door liftback (sold)

05-03-2006, 04:42 PM	#10
why? Only Happy When it Rains View User's Garage Drives: Yaris LB Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: harnett county NC Posts: 4,097	rofl, most brand names you see don't make the product's you;d think of when you hear their name. Singer subcontracts all their sowing machines out, they actually make computer chips now, lol. __________________ Colin Chapman disciple

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riceboy Drives: icebox Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: CAN Posts: 1,003	There's nothing to indicate the spring manufacturer on the box, it's just a plain corrugated cardboard box. From my understanding they are Eibach's branded to be used for Toyota. No big deal, it's common practice for a lot of accessories to be manufactured by third parties and then rebranded as OEM or OEM performance parts. It's just a matter of buying from the dealer gives you the peace of mind that you have someone to go back to in case anything goes wrong. In my experience Toyota will stand behind the products and look after you, whereas some private shops forget that you even exist after you get the install done, let alone look after you should something go wrong with a part or install that you've paid for. In any case, I think I've said it in another thread but I highly recommend the Toyota lowering springs, they really help to make the car sit properly from both a esthetic and a performance point of view. At the same time it's nothing too aggressive and won't make you cringe anytime you go over a pothole or railway tracks or speed bumps, or etc.

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ricko Drives: Copper-Orange Yaris RS Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Georgian Triangle Ont. Posts: 310	I can confirm Echo's post, that the TRD lowering springs offered at Canadian Toyota Dealers come with Eibach Pro Kit documentation. This is in fact not unusual (that these TRD springs are made by Eibach), Nike for example does not actually manufacture anything.

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ricko Drives: Copper-Orange Yaris RS Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Georgian Triangle Ont. Posts: 310	Makes sense, since each offers a warranty.

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06-23-2006, 01:14 PM	#16
JDMVitz Obsessive Detailer View User's Garage Drives: JDM Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: T.O. Posts: 77	I found on the internet the part no. for hatchback lowering spring. It doesn't say if is TRD or not... Part #: PTR04-52060 Is this the TRD lowering springs? If not, where can i find it?

11-05-2008, 11:56 PM	#17
Moura Stranger no more Drives: 2008 Yaris 1.0 VVt-i Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Portugal Posts: 12	Sorry to dig this up, but it will be my next mod. And I just knew about this a few days ago. I have a friend that works in Toyota here in Portugal, and he said that the springs are Eibach. So for me, there is no point in buying TRD (TTE) springs, you know why? Because in Europe everything is fuc**** expensive. They charge us 370$ (290€) for TRD springs. Eibach springs (the same ones I guess) will cost me about 230$ (180€). One thing it makes me confuse, is that Toyota says the TRD lowers -30mm, but Eibach says the pro-kit will lower -25mm

11-06-2008, 01:11 AM	#18
YarisSedan Drives: 08 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: California - Bay Area Posts: 2,773	Just so you know no dealer toyota honda etc manufacture thier own parts. They sublet it to a company and they make it and then they stick thier label on it. For example honda usses a lot of nissin parts. And it says honda on the box. But occasionally on the part you can see the stamp nissan. Infact if they havve problems with brake pads they will switch to a different brand. So you could buy 2 boxes of brake pads for the same car but a few years later it would be a different type cause they found out this other brand has less combacks. I had a customer in my shop once that didnt belive me they wanted only OEM parts. So i orderd a master cylinder from napa auto parts and a master cylinder from worldpack which is a oem cylinder that says honda all over th ebox. ANd took them both out. Identical in every way and both said nissin on them. Just one napa put thier name on and one honda put thiers on. So i told the customer if you want you can have this one because it comes with a pretty box but its 30 percent more expensive. I warrenty both parts for 1 year reguardless