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Old 05-12-2011, 10:23 AM   #1
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Toyota has some problems

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Old 05-12-2011, 01:14 PM   #2
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TOYOTA wanted to surpass G.M. for the world spot and sacrificed quality with quantity . What a shame . I think G.M. reclaimed that position .
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Old 05-12-2011, 02:44 PM   #3
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I would stick with Toyota, when you're the best everyone waits for you to make a mistake and it doesn't help that in North America all the red necks laugh at imports because they are mentally ill.

GM screws up all the time, and it is so frequent that everyone just accepts it now and if Toyota messes up once it is suddenly not okay to have a fault.

This is what I would say as my closing statement if I was Toyoda.
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Old 05-12-2011, 03:02 PM   #4
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They will survive and bounce back.
Ford was in a simular position a few years ago and and now, they are doing fantastic.

To be honest, If I was buying a car today, I would seriously consider a Ford.
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Old 05-12-2011, 03:29 PM   #5
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I would stick with Toyota, when you're the best everyone waits for you to make a mistake and it doesn't help that in North America all the red necks laugh at imports because they are mentally ill.

GM screws up all the time, and it is so frequent that everyone just accepts it now and if Toyota messes up once it is suddenly not okay to have a fault.

This is what I would say as my closing statement if I was Toyoda.
GM has had good reliability for a good number of years now. You can laugh at "rednecks" who laugh at imports, but pretending GM is still the company of the late 90's early 2000's is foolish as well.

Toyota simply fell into the same trap GM did. They got big, they had to make all these cars, which means pushing your employees harder than what is ideal, and quality suffers. Because you're number one you get a little lazy and complacent.

And Toyota's woes are coming at a time when other companies are making really, really great cars.

There's not reason to assume they won't bounce back though, but they have to start having a sense of urgency.
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Old 05-12-2011, 03:42 PM   #6
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I would still buy a Toyota and I would still recommend one to a friend.
I don't think they've totally lost their way, but I do think they need to take a step back to try and catch up with the competition.
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Old 05-12-2011, 03:54 PM   #7
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So did I miss the news about this great breakthrough with US manufacturers and the increased mileage ratings? Or have we been lied to for years and making fuel efficient vehicles isn't as hard as they have made it seem?
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Old 05-12-2011, 04:00 PM   #8
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Yah, that second part....
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Old 05-12-2011, 04:02 PM   #9
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Old 05-13-2011, 12:23 AM   #10
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I would stick with Toyota, when you're the best everyone waits for you to make a mistake and it doesn't help that in North America all the red necks laugh at imports because they are mentally ill.

GM screws up all the time, and it is so frequent that everyone just accepts it now and if Toyota messes up once it is suddenly not okay to have a fault.

This is what I would say as my closing statement if I was Toyoda.
Honestly, how many rednecks can there really be in a continent to degrade the percieved quality of toyota?

Red necks laugh at imports cuz to them, they are impractical and useless except to drive around. They want a vehicle that goes fast/hauls alot of stuff, and drive for enjoyment, which is why Nascar is so popular to them.
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Old 05-13-2011, 12:26 AM   #11
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I'm trying hard not to convince myself to get into a new 11 mustang honestly.... But if I was looking at eco vehicles, I would go for a cruz right about now for a sedan, or a fiesta for the hb
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Old 05-13-2011, 04:06 AM   #12
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USA Buys more trucks yet they have no reason to than we do in Canada, so I'd say the rednecks are here.

Also I also looked at the 2011's but my yaris is fine. snow here would rape a 2011 stang too
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Old 05-13-2011, 05:09 AM   #13
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the koreans are doing some pretty good things right now too....
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So did I miss the news about this great breakthrough with US manufacturers and the increased mileage ratings? Or have we been lied to for years and making fuel efficient vehicles isn't as hard as they have made it seem?
No - it's because the EPA changed the way the fuel economy is calculated, making really economical cars seem worse, and less economical cars seem better. Plus, with one super-eco model in each line-up, US mfrs can say "gets up to" XX mpg for each model. Without having to mention that it is only the expensive, slow car that does that.
It's called "advertising"
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Old 05-13-2011, 11:11 AM   #16
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Lol, rednecks in Canada. It's hard to imagine there's all that many but then again, I've never been to Canada. Still it's amusing to think about. Do they talk with a draw AND say "eh" at the end of things. lol.
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Old 05-13-2011, 11:16 AM   #17
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my dad and uncle still got their 91 and 95 corolla with almost 300K on it, with not a single problem, just oil changed and 100K services, AC still running cool never been refill, and now my yaris basically a Corolla Back then and it is still serving me good with almost no problems, so i'll stick and will stick with Toyota.
I can go and buy another brands but i don't get that peace of mind like when i'm in a Toyota.
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Old 05-13-2011, 11:26 AM   #18
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wow, another thread on a japanese board standing up for toyota and bashing domestic brands...awesome.

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