shifting in high rpm's - Toyota Yaris Forums

chancellor6869 · 12-17-2014, 05:46 PM

does anybody have problems shifting up or down in the higher rpm's?
even in my brand new transmission it seems like i cant drop a gear to get around someone who is driving to slow without grinding second. just wondering.....that is my only complaint about my yaris. i havent had any issues like that in my subaru or gti or any other 5 speed....

enviri · 12-17-2014, 09:30 PM

shifting down to 2nd is pretty awful for me too. 5-4-3 is awesome...but 2...not so much.

roxy1 · 12-17-2014, 10:15 PM

i drop down to second at 30-50 mph occasionally. ive never had a problem with it.

IllusionX · 12-17-2014, 11:06 PM

I don't think I've ever had issues shifting down to 2nd at 50mph. But you are at a very high rpm at that speed. So you really need to rev match.

ilikerice · 12-18-2014, 05:23 AM

Yea, what IllusionX said. Rev matching will fix it.

chancellor6869 · 12-18-2014, 11:43 AM

rev matching doesnt help second gear, every other gear is fine. im honestly thinking it might be that the slave cylinder. that has gone out twice already.

nookandcrannycar · 12-18-2014, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chancellor6869

rev matching doesnt help second gear, every other gear is fine. im honestly thinking it might be that the slave cylinder. that has gone out twice already.

JOOC, ballpark, how many miles on the car overall?

colj00 · 12-20-2014, 11:40 PM

iv never had my yaris grind a gear, and i do track days.

except for one time when my friend got high and thought he would be helpful by putting my car in reverse for me.... without the clutch

my car is just under 60k miles.

even my corolla which is 175 000 miles and 24 years old doesn't grind gears.

chancellor6869 · 12-22-2014, 01:01 PM

my car has both a brand new motor and transmission. i figured out what was wrong....when i replaced both i left one of the subrame mounts un-torqued and it came loose so it was making a knocking sound so i got underneath there and tightened it down and when i was under there i noticed a huge puddle of gear oil sitting on the splash guard and saw that the tranny is leaking fluid so im going to break it open and re-seal it and close it back up. but for now i have topped off the fluid and driving it until this weekend for when i have time to pull it out. i think while im there im going to hand make a new splash guard because mine is all torn up and ugly.

malibuguy · 12-23-2014, 09:49 AM

Make sure the clutch is disengaging properly especially since everything is apart. Also rev matching helps.

I grind my gears everyonce in a blue moon due to a random retard moment or wet shoe

CrankyOldMan · 12-23-2014, 11:58 AM

The only one I've ever had refuse to engage is 1st, but only if travelling over about 10 mph. I do occasionally grind 2nd or 3rd, but that's always because I mis-shift or drop the clutch too fast.

Re-sealing the gearbox is a non-trivial project. Are you sure it's between the sections and not just a shaft seal?

chancellor6869 · 12-23-2014, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by CrankyOldMan

The only one I've ever had refuse to engage is 1st, but only if travelling over about 10 mph. I do occasionally grind 2nd or 3rd, but that's always because I mis-shift or drop the clutch too fast.

Re-sealing the gearbox is a non-trivial project. Are you sure it's between the sections and not just a shaft seal?

ya i can see exactly where the seal has worn away. i took a sos pad to it and the put son silicone there until i drop it and fix it. it fixed my issue.

12-17-2014, 05:46 PM	#1
chancellor6869 Drives: yaris hatch is the sh*t Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: fortworth texas Posts: 74	shifting in high rpm's does anybody have problems shifting up or down in the higher rpm's? even in my brand new transmission it seems like i cant drop a gear to get around someone who is driving to slow without grinding second. just wondering.....that is my only complaint about my yaris. i havent had any issues like that in my subaru or gti or any other 5 speed....

12-17-2014, 11:06 PM	#4
IllusionX It's the illusion you see View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Sedan Aero Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Brossard, QC Posts: 3,888	I don't think I've ever had issues shifting down to 2nd at 50mph. But you are at a very high rpm at that speed. So you really need to rev match. __________________

12-18-2014, 05:23 AM	#5
ilikerice Drives: 2010 black yaris Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: savannah, ga Posts: 2,868	Yea, what IllusionX said. Rev matching will fix it. __________________ -Derrick- "Racing is important to men who do it well. When you're racing... It's life. Anything that happens before or after, is just waiting."

12-23-2014, 09:49 AM	#10
malibuguy Obsessed with 1.5L Drives: '10 PW Yaris Sedan Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Westminster, MD Posts: 908	Make sure the clutch is disengaging properly especially since everything is apart. Also rev matching helps. I grind my gears everyonce in a blue moon due to a random retard moment or wet shoe __________________ -Greg...the Exhaust Freak. -10 PW sedan 107whp/110wtq, full exhaust, suspension bits, TRD LSD -06 Highlander 3mzfe Limited AWD -82 Malibu, 1uzfe swap -97 Tercel coupe, 1nzfe/4.31 -96 Tercel coupe, Turbo 5efe, autoX -96 Tercel 4dr

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12-17-2014, 09:30 PM	#2
enviri View User's Garage Drives: 2010 Yaris Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: CT Posts: 1,519	shifting down to 2nd is pretty awful for me too. 5-4-3 is awesome...but 2...not so much.

12-17-2014, 10:15 PM	#3
roxy1 Drives: 2014 yaris 5 speed Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: michigan Posts: 642	i drop down to second at 30-50 mph occasionally. ive never had a problem with it.

12-18-2014, 11:43 AM	#6
chancellor6869 Drives: yaris hatch is the sh*t Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: fortworth texas Posts: 74	rev matching doesnt help second gear, every other gear is fine. im honestly thinking it might be that the slave cylinder. that has gone out twice already.

12-20-2014, 11:40 PM	#8
colj00 DIYer Drives: yaris 1.5 MT Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: perth, WA, straya Posts: 22	iv never had my yaris grind a gear, and i do track days. except for one time when my friend got high and thought he would be helpful by putting my car in reverse for me.... without the clutch my car is just under 60k miles. even my corolla which is 175 000 miles and 24 years old doesn't grind gears.

12-22-2014, 01:01 PM	#9
chancellor6869 Drives: yaris hatch is the sh*t Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: fortworth texas Posts: 74	my car has both a brand new motor and transmission. i figured out what was wrong....when i replaced both i left one of the subrame mounts un-torqued and it came loose so it was making a knocking sound so i got underneath there and tightened it down and when i was under there i noticed a huge puddle of gear oil sitting on the splash guard and saw that the tranny is leaking fluid so im going to break it open and re-seal it and close it back up. but for now i have topped off the fluid and driving it until this weekend for when i have time to pull it out. i think while im there im going to hand make a new splash guard because mine is all torn up and ugly.

12-23-2014, 11:58 AM	#11
CrankyOldMan 2ZR swap. DO IT! Ask how! View User's Garage Drives: 09 Meteoric Metallic HB Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: West Michigan Posts: 2,333	The only one I've ever had refuse to engage is 1st, but only if travelling over about 10 mph. I do occasionally grind 2nd or 3rd, but that's always because I mis-shift or drop the clutch too fast. Re-sealing the gearbox is a non-trivial project. Are you sure it's between the sections and not just a shaft seal?